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  • JollyJ Jolly

    So, we're not quite sure what his position is?

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    @Jolly said in What a difference three years makes:

    So, we're not quite sure what his position is?

    I bet you’ll ultimately be happy when he’s not confirmed because part of you, maybe subconsciously, must resent the fact that Trump has made you feel the need to sane-wash RFK Jr.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      To beat Harris, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        In the United States babies dont get TB and Smallpox vaccines.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦

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            @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

            babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦


            Birth to 6 Years Old
            1. Hepatitis B (HepB)
            • Protects against hepatitis B.
            • Given at birth, 1–2 months, and 6–18 months.
            2. Rotavirus (RV)
            • Protects against severe diarrhea.
            • Two or three doses depending on the vaccine type, given at 2 months and 4 months (and 6 months if needed).
            3. Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
            • Protects against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).
            • Five doses given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15–18 months, and 4–6 years.
            4. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
            • Protects against bacterial infections such as meningitis.
            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, (6 months if required), and 12–15 months.
            5. Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13)
            • Protects against pneumococcal infections like pneumonia and meningitis.
            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12–15 months.
            6. Polio (IPV)
            • Protects against poliomyelitis.
            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6–18 months, and 4–6 years.
            7. Influenza (Flu)
            • Protects against seasonal flu.
            • Annual vaccine starting at 6 months.
            8. Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
            • Protects against measles, mumps, and rubella.
            • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
            9. Varicella (Chickenpox)
            • Protects against chickenpox.
            • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
            10. Hepatitis A (HepA)
            • Protects against hepatitis A.
            • Two doses given between 12–23 months, spaced at least 6 months apart.


            7 to 18 Years Old
            1. Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis (Tdap)
            • Booster given at 11–12 years.
            2. Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
            • Protects against cancers caused by HPV.
            • Two or three doses starting at 11–12 years.
            3. Meningococcal (MenACWY)
            • Protects against meningococcal diseases like meningitis.
            • Given at 11–12 years and a booster at 16 years.
            • Meningococcal B (MenB) is also available for certain teens, typically at 16–18 years.
            4. Influenza (Flu)
            • Annual vaccine.

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              @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

              babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦


              Birth to 6 Years Old
              1. Hepatitis B (HepB)
              • Protects against hepatitis B.
              • Given at birth, 1–2 months, and 6–18 months.
              2. Rotavirus (RV)
              • Protects against severe diarrhea.
              • Two or three doses depending on the vaccine type, given at 2 months and 4 months (and 6 months if needed).
              3. Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
              • Protects against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).
              • Five doses given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15–18 months, and 4–6 years.
              4. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
              • Protects against bacterial infections such as meningitis.
              • Given at 2 months, 4 months, (6 months if required), and 12–15 months.
              5. Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13)
              • Protects against pneumococcal infections like pneumonia and meningitis.
              • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12–15 months.
              6. Polio (IPV)
              • Protects against poliomyelitis.
              • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6–18 months, and 4–6 years.
              7. Influenza (Flu)
              • Protects against seasonal flu.
              • Annual vaccine starting at 6 months.
              8. Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
              • Protects against measles, mumps, and rubella.
              • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
              9. Varicella (Chickenpox)
              • Protects against chickenpox.
              • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
              10. Hepatitis A (HepA)
              • Protects against hepatitis A.
              • Two doses given between 12–23 months, spaced at least 6 months apart.


              7 to 18 Years Old
              1. Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis (Tdap)
              • Booster given at 11–12 years.
              2. Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
              • Protects against cancers caused by HPV.
              • Two or three doses starting at 11–12 years.
              3. Meningococcal (MenACWY)
              • Protects against meningococcal diseases like meningitis.
              • Given at 11–12 years and a booster at 16 years.
              • Meningococcal B (MenB) is also available for certain teens, typically at 16–18 years.
              4. Influenza (Flu)
              • Annual vaccine.

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              @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

              Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

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                That list is far more than most kids get. Certainly the ones required by many school systems are a small subset of that.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

                  Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

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                  @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

                  @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

                  Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

                  He’s counting the boosters. If you follow the CDC recommendations, it’s 28 shots. And that’s not including the newest COVID recommendations.

                  The Brad

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                    28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

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                      @jon-nyc said in What a difference three years makes:

                      28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

                      Through 3 years… I think he was probably playing a little loose with the word babies…

                      The Brad

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                        My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

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                          @jon-nyc said in What a difference three years makes:

                          My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

                          I’d challenge you to go back and check his records. I didn’t count, but I remember Finley regularly getting 3-4 different shots at his visits and I didn’t go to all of them. Same with Lucas…

                          The Brad

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                            This is generally what I remember my kids getting. I think we even had a magnet on the fridge that was easier to read. I think in general my kids had about 10 or so vaccines. Sen Tuberville sounds a bit like an idiot....I know no one that died from the COVID vaccine, healthy or not.

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                              This is generally what I remember my kids getting. I think we even had a magnet on the fridge that was easier to read. I think in general my kids had about 10 or so vaccines. Sen Tuberville sounds a bit like an idiot....I know no one that died from the COVID vaccine, healthy or not.

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                              @89th said in What a difference three years makes:

                              This is generally what I remember my kids getting. I think we even had a magnet on the fridge that was easier to read. I think in general my kids had about 10 or so vaccines. Sen Tuberville sounds a bit like an idiot....I know no one that died from the COVID vaccine, healthy or not.

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                              Again, they are counting jabs, not individual types of vaccinations. So 4 DTaPs within the first 3 years, 2 HepB, 3 RV, 4Hib, 4 Pneumococcal, etc…

                              The Brad

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                                So Tuberville is worried about just the polio deaths.

                                Imagine at today’s population levels.

                                Vaccine-Preventable Diseases and Deaths (Pre-Vaccine Era)
                                1. Measles:
                                • 400–500 deaths annually
                                • Over 48,000 hospitalizations and 1,000 cases of encephalitis (brain swelling) each year.
                                2. Polio:
                                • Caused thousands of deaths and left tens of thousands of children permanently paralyzed annually during major outbreaks in the 1940s and 1950s.
                                3. Diphtheria:
                                • 15,000 deaths annually, mostly in children, before the vaccine was introduced in the 1920s.
                                4. Pertussis (Whooping Cough):
                                • Up to 9,000 deaths annually before the vaccine became available in the 1940s.
                                5. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib):
                                • 1,000 deaths annually before the vaccine’s introduction in the late 1980s, primarily from meningitis.
                                6. Rubella (German Measles):
                                • Caused congenital rubella syndrome in thousands of infants during outbreaks, leading to up to 20,000 deaths or severe birth defects annually before the vaccine in 1969.
                                7. Tetanus:
                                • Approximately 500 deaths annually, including neonatal tetanus.
                                8. Chickenpox (Varicella):
                                • Caused 100–150 deaths annually and over 10,000 hospitalizations before the vaccine was introduced in the 1990s.
                                9. Rotavirus:
                                • Caused 20–60 deaths annually and over 200,000 hospitalizations in children under 5 before the vaccine became available in the early 2000s.
                                10. Pneumococcal Disease:
                                • Caused 200 deaths annually among children under 5 from meningitis and bloodstream infections before the vaccine.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  The fact that infant mortality is at an all time low doesn’t slow these cretins down?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Not when each and every one of us know someone murdered by the Covid vaccine.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Let’s play this game.

                                      As far as what I have seen, the primary proposals Kennedy seems to be laying out with regards to vaccines are:

                                      1. removing the legal protections given to vaccine manufacturers from liability claims.

                                      2. A rigorous 3rd party independent study on the current crop of vaccinations to reevaluate efficacy, risk, and need.

                                      So let’s say that they conduct the survey, and for the sake of having a discussion on a rainy and cold day, let’s say the study comes back and DOES show a link between vaccines and Autism… What then? Let’s say the numbers are 30 out of 1,000. Do you shut down the vaccines over that? What if the numbers are higher? Lower? What are the thresholds for what is an acceptable trade off?

                                      The Brad

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                                        There are dozens of studies with n in the hundreds of thousands and meta studies with n in the millions.

                                        Adding one to their number won’t hurt anything per se. It’s these guys continuing to sow doubt in the minds of tens of millions of Americans. Damage is already starting to be done. We can thank Trump for that for giving this clown oxygen.

                                        The mere idea of the government saying ‘we need more studies to see if these are safe’ would, and already has, sown doubt.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          I think that the FDA in the US is the strongest in the world, and there is the longest time before approval of something entering the market.

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