NY Gov Hochul saves you money!
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@Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
Gee, you're old.
I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!
wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 11:22 last edited by@89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
@Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
Gee, you're old.
I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!
Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.
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@89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
@Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
Gee, you're old.
I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!
Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.
wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 13:36 last edited by@Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
@89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
@Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
Gee, you're old.
I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!
Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.
But not too slowly… Didn’t want the troll to get you.
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2 months later
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@Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
In high volume, the toll is higher
But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower
Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?
The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.
When I lived in Merritt Island as a kid there was a new bridge to the mainland built and they put a toll on it, saying they’d take it down when it was paid for.
A few years later they announced the goal had been met and they were going to take it down. Then they realized it cost money to take it down, so they operated it for a few more months and then took it down.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 01:54 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 01:54@jon-nyc said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
@Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
In high volume, the toll is higher
But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower
Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?
The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.
When I lived in Merritt Island as a kid there was a new bridge to the mainland built and they put a toll on it, saying they’d take it down when it was paid for.
A few years later they announced the goal had been met and they were going to take it down. Then they realized it cost money to take it down, so they operated it for a few more months and then took it down.
NY has rescinded a toll before.
Brooklyn Bridge - When the Brooklyn Bridge first opened, it cost a penny to cross by foot, 5 cents for a horse and rider and 10 cents for a horse and wagon. Farm animals were allowed at a price of 5 cents per cow and 2 cents per sheep or hog. Under pressure from civic groups and commuters, the pedestrian toll was repealed in 1891. The roadway tolls were then rescinded on July 19, 1911.
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Haha yeah, I remember when you could still toss a quarter into a basket with a human standing in the booth.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 02:27 last edited by@89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
Haha yeah, I remember when you could still toss a quarter into a basket with a human standing in the booth.
Yes! And if you hurled it in forcefully it made a satisfying sound, like you hurt the booth. IBM 3278 keyboards made a very similar noise.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 03:23 last edited by
Once drove through a toll booth at a hair over 100mph. I did toss a quarter. I did not hit the basket.
OTOH, I was driving on the wrong side of the road at the time, so I had to throw the quarter over the roof...
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Once drove through a toll booth at a hair over 100mph. I did toss a quarter. I did not hit the basket.
OTOH, I was driving on the wrong side of the road at the time, so I had to throw the quarter over the roof...
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:37 last edited byThat sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:43 last edited by
Hell, he knocked the statue right over and threw a half dollar at it for good measure.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:10 last edited by
Still waiting for my tolls from NYC… The Jersey tolls posted the next day…
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That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:12 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555
No. The description is quite probably much better than the full story. It leaves so much to the imagination!
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@taiwan_girl said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:
That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555
No. The description is quite probably much better than the full story. It leaves so much to the imagination!
wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 02:47 last edited by@LuFins-Dad True!!!
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wrote on 22 Mar 2025, 00:44 last edited by
The Trump administration has reiterated a demand for New York to end its congestion pricing program, providing officials with a 30-day extension to turn off the tolls.
So far, the state and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, have refused to comply with a Friday deadline to halt the program. MTA Chief Executive Officer, Janno Lieber has previously said the program will remain in effect until there is a court decision on the matter.
President Donald Trump and US Department of Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy are putting the state and its Governor Kathy Hochul “on notice” after New York rebuffed the prior deadline, according to a Thursday post on X.
“Know that the billions of dollars the federal government sends to New York are not a blank check,” Duffy wrote. “Continued noncompliance will not be taken lightly.”
Avi Small, a spokesperson for Hochul, emphasized that congestion pricing is working and support for the program has continued to grow. “We’ve seen Secretary Duffy’s tweet, which doesn’t change what Governor Hochul has been saying all along: the cameras are staying on,” he said in an emailed statement.
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about a month later
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wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 01:04 last edited by
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-congestion-pricing-federal-deadline/6231321/
The much talked about but wildly successful, by New York state and transportation officials' standards, congestion pricing program faces a federal deadline on Sunday to turn off its camera -- so is it likely not to happen?
U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, who called the toll a “slap in the face to working class Americans and small business owners," originally told the state to end the tolling program by March 21. When state officials refused, federal authorities set a new deadline of April 20. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul had said the state intended to ignore that deadline, too.
The dispute headed to federal court in Manhattan, where the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) sued Duffy over his February decision to rescind the toll’s federal approval. Congestion pricing advocates say it’s meant to deter drivers and relieve traffic backups while providing billions of dollars for the city’s transit system.
Lawyers for the two sides recently reached an agreement that appeared to slow things down. They proposed a briefing schedule that allows for court filings through the end of July and possibly into October, while government lawyers indicated they wouldn't seek an injunction to stop the tolls while the lawsuit proceeds, according to a joint letter signed by an MTA lawyer to the judge in the case.
But the U.S. Department of Transportation has said that it wasn't backing off from its immediate demands to end the tolling.
"The deadline is April 20 and we expect New York to comply and terminate this program. USDOT will continue to fight for working class Americans whose tax dollars have already funded and paid for these roads," a statement from the USDOT said Friday.
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wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 05:25 last edited by
I’m old enough to remember when the Republican Party thought the Feds shouldn’t interfere with local matters.
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wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 11:20 last edited by
So much for "local control," so much for "state rights," so much for the Tenth Amendment.
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