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  • George KG George K

    Is New York unique in that it needs a congestion fee tax? It is the only city in the country that plans this.

    Small trucks and non-commuter buses will pay $14.40 to enter Manhattan, while larger trucks and tourist buses will pay a $21.60 fee.

    Is NYC worse than Chicago, LA or others? DC has the worst gridlock.

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    @George-K said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

    Is New York unique in that it needs a congestion fee tax? It is the only city in the country that plans this.

    Small trucks and non-commuter buses will pay $14.40 to enter Manhattan, while larger trucks and tourist buses will pay a $21.60 fee.

    Is NYC worse than Chicago, LA or others? DC has the worst gridlock.

    North and south in Manhattan is OK. East or west? Fugghedaboudit.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • CopperC Copper

      In high volume, the toll is higher

      But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower

      Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

      The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.

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      @Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

      In high volume, the toll is higher

      But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower

      Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

      The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.

      When I lived in Merritt Island as a kid there was a new bridge to the mainland built and they put a toll on it, saying they’d take it down when it was paid for.

      A few years later they announced the goal had been met and they were going to take it down. Then they realized it cost money to take it down, so they operated it for a few more months and then took it down.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • CopperC Copper

        In high volume, the toll is higher

        But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower

        Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

        The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.

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        @Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

        Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

        Yup! I believe it makes about $750,000 per day. PER DAY.

        The Dulles Greenway I think also makes like $400,000 per day.

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          I believe the cost was 25 cents, 50 cents (maybe 35) to go all the way to the beltway.

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            Haha yeah, I remember when you could still toss a quarter into a basket with a human standing in the booth.

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              Gee, you're old.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Gee, you're old.

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                @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                Gee, you're old.

                I remember (really!) when the Interstates didn't exist.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Gee, you're old.

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                  @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                  Gee, you're old.

                  I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!

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                    @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                    Gee, you're old.

                    I remember (really!) when the Interstates didn't exist.

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                    @George-K said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                    @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                    Gee, you're old.

                    I remember (really!) when the Interstates didn't exist.

                    And a time before any man made object had orbited the earth

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                      Gee, you're old.

                      I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!

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                      @89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                      @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                      Gee, you're old.

                      I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!

                      Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        @89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                        @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                        Gee, you're old.

                        I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!

                        Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.

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                        @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                        @89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                        @Jolly said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                        Gee, you're old.

                        I was referring specifically to the Dulles toll road history. I’m not as old as you who would throw a penny and ask for change!

                        Things were slower back then. You had plenty of time as your horse walked through the toll gate.

                        But not too slowly… Didn’t want the troll to get you.

                        The Brad

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                          @Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                          In high volume, the toll is higher

                          But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower

                          Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

                          The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.

                          When I lived in Merritt Island as a kid there was a new bridge to the mainland built and they put a toll on it, saying they’d take it down when it was paid for.

                          A few years later they announced the goal had been met and they were going to take it down. Then they realized it cost money to take it down, so they operated it for a few more months and then took it down.

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                          @jon-nyc said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                          @Copper said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                          In high volume, the toll is higher

                          But since the volume is higher, the speed is slower

                          Did you know that the Dulles Toll Road was initially built with the promise that the toll booths will be removed when the cost of the road has been covered?

                          The cost of the road was recovered in only a few years, but when they saw how much money could be collected, the promise was forgotten.

                          When I lived in Merritt Island as a kid there was a new bridge to the mainland built and they put a toll on it, saying they’d take it down when it was paid for.

                          A few years later they announced the goal had been met and they were going to take it down. Then they realized it cost money to take it down, so they operated it for a few more months and then took it down.

                          NY has rescinded a toll before.

                          Brooklyn Bridge - When the Brooklyn Bridge first opened, it cost a penny to cross by foot, 5 cents for a horse and rider and 10 cents for a horse and wagon. Farm animals were allowed at a price of 5 cents per cow and 2 cents per sheep or hog. Under pressure from civic groups and commuters, the pedestrian toll was repealed in 1891. The roadway tolls were then rescinded on July 19, 1911.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Haha yeah, I remember when you could still toss a quarter into a basket with a human standing in the booth.

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                            @89th said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                            Haha yeah, I remember when you could still toss a quarter into a basket with a human standing in the booth.

                            Yes! And if you hurled it in forcefully it made a satisfying sound, like you hurt the booth. IBM 3278 keyboards made a very similar noise.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Once drove through a toll booth at a hair over 100mph. I did toss a quarter. I did not hit the basket.

                              OTOH, I was driving on the wrong side of the road at the time, so I had to throw the quarter over the roof...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Once drove through a toll booth at a hair over 100mph. I did toss a quarter. I did not hit the basket.

                                OTOH, I was driving on the wrong side of the road at the time, so I had to throw the quarter over the roof...

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                                @Jolly 😲

                                That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555

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                                  Hell, he knocked the statue right over and threw a half dollar at it for good measure.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Still waiting for my tolls from NYC… The Jersey tolls posted the next day…

                                    The Brad

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                                      @Jolly 😲

                                      That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                                      @Jolly 😲

                                      That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555

                                      No. The description is quite probably much better than the full story. It leaves so much to the imagination!

                                      The Brad

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in NY Gov Hochul saves you money!:

                                        @Jolly 😲

                                        That sounds like a story worth telling. Of course, I hope that the statute of limitations are over!!! 555

                                        No. The description is quite probably much better than the full story. It leaves so much to the imagination!

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                                        @LuFins-Dad True!!!

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                                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-20/trump-extends-deadline-to-halt-congestion-pricing-threatens-aid

                                          The Trump administration has reiterated a demand for New York to end its congestion pricing program, providing officials with a 30-day extension to turn off the tolls.

                                          So far, the state and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, have refused to comply with a Friday deadline to halt the program. MTA Chief Executive Officer, Janno Lieber has previously said the program will remain in effect until there is a court decision on the matter.

                                          President Donald Trump and US Department of Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy are putting the state and its Governor Kathy Hochul “on notice” after New York rebuffed the prior deadline, according to a Thursday post on X.

                                          “Know that the billions of dollars the federal government sends to New York are not a blank check,” Duffy wrote. “Continued noncompliance will not be taken lightly.”

                                          Avi Small, a spokesperson for Hochul, emphasized that congestion pricing is working and support for the program has continued to grow. “We’ve seen Secretary Duffy’s tweet, which doesn’t change what Governor Hochul has been saying all along: the cameras are staying on,” he said in an emailed statement.

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