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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 13:11 last edited by
    #1

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Jolly
      wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:45 last edited by
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      Solution: Don't lie to people.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:53 last edited by
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        From your lips to RFK Jr’s ears.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
          wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:55 last edited by Jolly
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          You might get some experience with how RFK views things before long.

          Could be interesting.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            31 Oct 2024, 14:45

            Solution: Don't lie to people.

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            xenon
            wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:00 last edited by xenon
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            @Jolly said in Jesus:

            Solution: Don't lie to people.

            Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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              Mik
              wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:03 last edited by
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              I think when it went off the rails is when people started getting fired.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:06 last edited by
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                What the fuck does any of that have to do with blaming vaccines for autism?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:06 last edited by taiwan_girl
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                  His opening comment shows just how stupid he is.

                  "When RFK was born, there were 3 vaccines..........."

                  Okay. When Abraham Lincoln was born, there were zero vaccines and zero kids diagnosed with autism.

                  Obviously people were more healthy back then. I bet the lifespan was 150 years +

                  🙄

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                    89th
                    wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:40 last edited by 89th
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                    He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                    He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                    For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:46 last edited by
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                      I personally have no problem with vaccines. At the same time, I don’t believe the pharmaceutical companies should have such a wide ranging protection.

                      The Brad

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                        31 Oct 2024, 15:40

                        He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                        He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                        For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:47 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Jesus:

                        For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                        I agree.

                        150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:48 last edited by
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                          I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            31 Oct 2024, 15:47

                            @89th said in Jesus:

                            For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                            I agree.

                            150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:27 last edited by jon-nyc
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Jesus:

                            @89th said in Jesus:

                            For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                            I agree.

                            150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

                            When I was a kid the kids who today would be given ADHD diagnoses were labeled ‘hyperactive’ if not just ‘troublemaker’.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              31 Oct 2024, 15:48

                              I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:30 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in Jesus:

                              I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                              I think labels and diagnoses are not bad in themselves, but too many parents and children can't differentiate between "category" and "excuse."

                              Please love yourself.

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                                31 Oct 2024, 15:00

                                @Jolly said in Jesus:

                                Solution: Don't lie to people.

                                Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:30 last edited by
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                                @xenon said in Jesus:

                                @Jolly said in Jesus:

                                Solution: Don't lie to people.

                                Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

                                Be more explicit - the CDC lied about masks therefore we’re going to put a generation of children at risk, many of whom will die.

                                Can someone - anyone - walk me through the logic here? Jolly?

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 18:39 last edited by
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                                  What’s really sad is Trump’s people pandering to a whack job like RFK over this issue in order to gain the crunchy nut flake vote.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:00 last edited by
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                                    I think you’ll probably see them remove the protections for the vaccine manufacturers. Depending on the limits, I don’t find that unreasonable. There will also likely be some new studies. Not sure that I like that very much. I think we all can agree that we’ve seen how bias can affect studies…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Rich
                                      wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:03 last edited by
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                                      Yeah, sort of hoping the blanket anti-vax stuff doesn't actually make it into any meaningful policy decisions.

                                      tbh, I'd even been wondering if the RFK/Trump alliance could make it all the way through to the election...Kennedy has a real 'big business=bad' kind of way about him. How long into an administration could it be before heads but, and Trumps latest best bud, becomes another 'lame brain' that had to get fired?

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:13 last edited by
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                                        I think it’s highly possible he’ll dump RFK once he becomes inconvenient. Let’s hope so, at least.

                                        “RFK, go away, what more do I have to say?”

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:17 last edited by
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                                          After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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