Jesus
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 13:11 last edited by
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:45 last edited by
Solution: Don't lie to people.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:53 last edited by
From your lips to RFK Jr’s ears.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 14:55 last edited by Jolly
You might get some experience with how RFK views things before long.
Could be interesting.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:00 last edited by xenon
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:03 last edited by
I think when it went off the rails is when people started getting fired.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:06 last edited by
What the fuck does any of that have to do with blaming vaccines for autism?
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:06 last edited by taiwan_girl
His opening comment shows just how stupid he is.
"When RFK was born, there were 3 vaccines..........."
Okay. When Abraham Lincoln was born, there were zero vaccines and zero kids diagnosed with autism.
Obviously people were more healthy back then. I bet the lifespan was 150 years +
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:40 last edited by 89th
He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.
He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.
For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 15:46 last edited by
I personally have no problem with vaccines. At the same time, I don’t believe the pharmaceutical companies should have such a wide ranging protection.
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He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.
He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.
For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.
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I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:27 last edited by jon-nyc
@taiwan_girl said in Jesus:
For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.
I agree.
150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?
When I was a kid the kids who today would be given ADHD diagnoses were labeled ‘hyperactive’ if not just ‘troublemaker’.
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I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.
wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:30 last edited byI know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.
I think labels and diagnoses are not bad in themselves, but too many parents and children can't differentiate between "category" and "excuse."
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 17:30 last edited by
Solution: Don't lie to people.
Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).
Be more explicit - the CDC lied about masks therefore we’re going to put a generation of children at risk, many of whom will die.
Can someone - anyone - walk me through the logic here? Jolly?
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 18:39 last edited by
What’s really sad is Trump’s people pandering to a whack job like RFK over this issue in order to gain the crunchy nut flake vote.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:00 last edited by
I think you’ll probably see them remove the protections for the vaccine manufacturers. Depending on the limits, I don’t find that unreasonable. There will also likely be some new studies. Not sure that I like that very much. I think we all can agree that we’ve seen how bias can affect studies…
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:03 last edited by
Yeah, sort of hoping the blanket anti-vax stuff doesn't actually make it into any meaningful policy decisions.
tbh, I'd even been wondering if the RFK/Trump alliance could make it all the way through to the election...Kennedy has a real 'big business=bad' kind of way about him. How long into an administration could it be before heads but, and Trumps latest best bud, becomes another 'lame brain' that had to get fired?
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:13 last edited by
I think it’s highly possible he’ll dump RFK once he becomes inconvenient. Let’s hope so, at least.
“RFK, go away, what more do I have to say?”
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wrote on 31 Oct 2024, 19:17 last edited by
After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.
