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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #2

    Solution: Don't lie to people.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #3

      From your lips to RFK Jr’s ears.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #4

        You might get some experience with how RFK views things before long.

        Could be interesting.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Solution: Don't lie to people.

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          xenon
          wrote on last edited by xenon
          #5

          @Jolly said in Jesus:

          Solution: Don't lie to people.

          Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            I think when it went off the rails is when people started getting fired.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #7

              What the fuck does any of that have to do with blaming vaccines for autism?

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #8

                His opening comment shows just how stupid he is.

                "When RFK was born, there were 3 vaccines..........."

                Okay. When Abraham Lincoln was born, there were zero vaccines and zero kids diagnosed with autism.

                Obviously people were more healthy back then. I bet the lifespan was 150 years +

                🙄

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                • 89th8 Online
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                  He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                  He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                  For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    I personally have no problem with vaccines. At the same time, I don’t believe the pharmaceutical companies should have such a wide ranging protection.

                    The Brad

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                      He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                      For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                      @89th said in Jesus:

                      For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                      I agree.

                      150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @89th said in Jesus:

                          For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                          I agree.

                          150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #13

                          @taiwan_girl said in Jesus:

                          @89th said in Jesus:

                          For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                          I agree.

                          150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

                          When I was a kid the kids who today would be given ADHD diagnoses were labeled ‘hyperactive’ if not just ‘troublemaker’.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            @Mik said in Jesus:

                            I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                            I think labels and diagnoses are not bad in themselves, but too many parents and children can't differentiate between "category" and "excuse."

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • X xenon

                              @Jolly said in Jesus:

                              Solution: Don't lie to people.

                              Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @xenon said in Jesus:

                              @Jolly said in Jesus:

                              Solution: Don't lie to people.

                              Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

                              Be more explicit - the CDC lied about masks therefore we’re going to put a generation of children at risk, many of whom will die.

                              Can someone - anyone - walk me through the logic here? Jolly?

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                What’s really sad is Trump’s people pandering to a whack job like RFK over this issue in order to gain the crunchy nut flake vote.

                                I was only joking

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  I think you’ll probably see them remove the protections for the vaccine manufacturers. Depending on the limits, I don’t find that unreasonable. There will also likely be some new studies. Not sure that I like that very much. I think we all can agree that we’ve seen how bias can affect studies…

                                  The Brad

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                                    Rich
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                                    Yeah, sort of hoping the blanket anti-vax stuff doesn't actually make it into any meaningful policy decisions.

                                    tbh, I'd even been wondering if the RFK/Trump alliance could make it all the way through to the election...Kennedy has a real 'big business=bad' kind of way about him. How long into an administration could it be before heads but, and Trumps latest best bud, becomes another 'lame brain' that had to get fired?

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                                      I think it’s highly possible he’ll dump RFK once he becomes inconvenient. Let’s hope so, at least.

                                      “RFK, go away, what more do I have to say?”

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Horace
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                                        After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @Horace said in Jesus:

                                          After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.

                                          Yeah, that was definitely a stupid strategic move.

                                          I was only joking

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