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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      Solution: Don't lie to people.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        From your lips to RFK Jr’s ears.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          You might get some experience with how RFK views things before long.

          Could be interesting.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Solution: Don't lie to people.

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            #5

            @Jolly said in Jesus:

            Solution: Don't lie to people.

            Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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            • MikM Offline
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              I think when it went off the rails is when people started getting fired.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                What the fuck does any of that have to do with blaming vaccines for autism?

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  His opening comment shows just how stupid he is.

                  "When RFK was born, there were 3 vaccines..........."

                  Okay. When Abraham Lincoln was born, there were zero vaccines and zero kids diagnosed with autism.

                  Obviously people were more healthy back then. I bet the lifespan was 150 years +

                  🙄

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                    He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                    He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                    For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                      I personally have no problem with vaccines. At the same time, I don’t believe the pharmaceutical companies should have such a wide ranging protection.

                      The Brad

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        He says there were 3 vaccines for kids and now there are 76. There are 15.

                        He says this is because of what happened in 1986. Back then, the under-5 mortality rate was 14 in 1,000. It has since been cut in half (7 in 1,000). I wonder why.

                        For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

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                        @89th said in Jesus:

                        For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                        I agree.

                        150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @89th said in Jesus:

                            For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                            I agree.

                            150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Jesus:

                            @89th said in Jesus:

                            For autism, I have no idea but I bet the rates are increasing because of increased awareness and finer-tuned diagnosis requirements.

                            I agree.

                            150 years ago, how many people were diagnosed and died from (for example) Parkinsons? MS? ALS?

                            When I was a kid the kids who today would be given ADHD diagnoses were labeled ‘hyperactive’ if not just ‘troublemaker’.

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

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                              @Mik said in Jesus:

                              I know several people, including some family, who labeled their kids as having Aspergers to explain why they weren't succeeding at whatever. It was a HUGE mistake. Stick that label on a kid and he will underperform forever.

                              I think labels and diagnoses are not bad in themselves, but too many parents and children can't differentiate between "category" and "excuse."

                              Please love yourself.

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                                @Jolly said in Jesus:

                                Solution: Don't lie to people.

                                Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

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                                @xenon said in Jesus:

                                @Jolly said in Jesus:

                                Solution: Don't lie to people.

                                Completely agree - you shouldn't lie to people. But the solution is a couple of decades in vaccine science purgatory to atone for the CDC's politics in 2020? (under Trump's nose, no less).

                                Be more explicit - the CDC lied about masks therefore we’re going to put a generation of children at risk, many of whom will die.

                                Can someone - anyone - walk me through the logic here? Jolly?

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  What’s really sad is Trump’s people pandering to a whack job like RFK over this issue in order to gain the crunchy nut flake vote.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    I think you’ll probably see them remove the protections for the vaccine manufacturers. Depending on the limits, I don’t find that unreasonable. There will also likely be some new studies. Not sure that I like that very much. I think we all can agree that we’ve seen how bias can affect studies…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Yeah, sort of hoping the blanket anti-vax stuff doesn't actually make it into any meaningful policy decisions.

                                      tbh, I'd even been wondering if the RFK/Trump alliance could make it all the way through to the election...Kennedy has a real 'big business=bad' kind of way about him. How long into an administration could it be before heads but, and Trumps latest best bud, becomes another 'lame brain' that had to get fired?

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                                        I think it’s highly possible he’ll dump RFK once he becomes inconvenient. Let’s hope so, at least.

                                        “RFK, go away, what more do I have to say?”

                                        I was only joking

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                                          After the pro-vax side used its rhetorical currency to force people to take the jab, on penalty of economic death, the appeal of the anti-vax side spread far wider than crunchy soccer moms.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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