Zelensky Speaks in PA
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
@Horace said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
Israel receives a shit ton of money in military aid from the US, and nobody on the right ever complains when Bibi insults the Democrats, because as we know they're all antisemites.
Dems are anti-semites, and Republicans are Russian operatives. Facts.
It's difficult to leave the house without being surrounded by anti-semites and Russian operatives. That's why I don't leave the house.
What do you do if you're an antisemitic Russian operative?
You never show your face on the internet, that's for sure. Nobody will like you.
Education is extremely important.
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@Klaus said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
Eh, why is this a problem? Isn't that pretty normal?
Let's put it differently.
Vlad Putin makes a stop in the United States. He visits an arms factory, where he praises Trump, saying that Biden is to unstable and senile. He thinks Harris will follow Biden's policies.
And the US Air Force flies him from Washington to Pennsylvania.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K Again, Putin is an adversary
DON’T let them eat cake.
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@Mik said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
is Pierre fighting for his country's very existence?
Not his country’s very interests but certainly his very own political interest.
Actually I would have a problem if any serving Canadian PM was being flown around any foreign country on anything other than his designated CAF aircraft.
In any event the question is moot.
Zelensky represents 38 million disenfranchised stakeholders in the upcoming US election. I too would be concerned if the victor of the next election would have no qualms appeasing the Kremlin in undermining my country’s sovereignty and right to exist as an independent nation state.
Contrary to what some people think Ukraine is not Kurdistan; an ethnic entity that merely exists as an aspiration that can be bartered and sold as a chattel of back room diplomacy.
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George - your post implies he flew to PA to make those comments but the article says he made them in a New Yorker interview.
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The U.S. is shouldering a ton of cost for Ukraine - this is a tired point, but isn't depleting Russia's military power cost effective for the U.S. in the long term? The two biggest potential adversaries we have are China and Russia. Don't our military expenditures go up if Russia wins?
Maybe there's an argument to be made about the unpredictability of a cornered adversary.
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@xenon said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
The U.S. is shouldering a ton of cost for Ukraine
Saw a paper that talked about the economic impact the "money to Ukraine" has had on local economies as actually the money is generally going to weapon manufacturing and the associated businesses.
(Yes, it is being spent on Ukraine, but the impact is in the US. But I guess that is the same with most arms sales.)
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Subsidies in the form of government contracts to munitions manufacturers and service companies. Most technical assistance through USEXIM bank to developing countries is similar.
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Back to the original subject...
We know it's not Biden calling the shots nowadays (seen the latest videos?), but it's the same hyperpolitical Beltway approach. Lawfare, willing media manipulation, leaked hoaxes, selective DOJ harassment and prosecution...Now the use of a foreign leader traveling on the American dime, trying to influence a Presidential election.
It's all part and parcel of the same thing.
And it's rotten.
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Also the original post seems to be misleading. He made his remarks in an interview with the New Yorker. Not at a political event in PA.
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Zelenskys comments in the New Yorker interview are a bit of a yawner to me. Probably more unsettling is allowing him to come to the US, and start signing bombs that will be used to kill people in a conflict that is not our own. Even more inappropriate to have US officials doing so.
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@89th said in Zelensky Speaks in PA:
His visit seems normal to me. @xenon makes a good point about US interests in Ukraine beating up on Russia. Z's comments are also pretty accurate, sorry if that hurts feelings.
I would agree.
Zelenskyi understands the Russian mentality as it stands today. He has to, it’s a matter of national survival.
There are few Western countries that do understand the mentality driving Kremlin’s revanchist polity. One nation that does is Finland. Finland’s recent joining of NATO tells us volumes about the Kremlin’s mindset. We should all know take pause and heed what the Finns are saying and doing:
