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The Exploding Pagers

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 12:04 last edited by
    #188

    But wait? I thought the US had no troops in an active war zone?

    The Brad

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 13:03 last edited by
      #189

      Bwhahahahahaha!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • A Axtremus
        1 Oct 2024, 22:48

        @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

        ... no missile attack should ever be excused away because it was unsuccessful.

        If the attack is "just for show", then the retaliation may also be likewise. Each "look good" domestically, but World War III is avoided anyway.

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        Mik
        wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 13:47 last edited by Mik 10 Feb 2024, 13:48
        #190

        @Axtremus said in The Exploding Pagers:

        @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

        ... no missile attack should ever be excused away because it was unsuccessful.

        If the attack is "just for show", then the retaliation may also be likewise. Each "look good" domestically, but World War III is avoided anyway.

        I don't see any evidence that Israel does for show operations. I don't think it will be anything as crude as lobbing missiles, but much more targeted.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          bachophile
          wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 14:08 last edited by
          #191

          Correction. One casualty. A Palestinian in the West Bank.

          ***=NSFW content***

          click to show

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            Mik
            wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 14:31 last edited by
            #192

            So... we now know where Baghdad Bob went after Iraq fell.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Jolly
              wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:18 last edited by
              #193

              From SCUD to THUD?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:34 last edited by
                #194

                Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  2 Oct 2024, 15:34

                  Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:48 last edited by
                  #195

                  @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:49 last edited by
                    #196

                    Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      2 Oct 2024, 15:48

                      @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:50 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl

                      Watch. The transcript never reveals everything about human interaction.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        2 Oct 2024, 15:49

                        Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:58 last edited by
                        #198

                        @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                        Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

                        Yep. Those trains left the station a thousand years ago.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 16:07 last edited by
                          #199

                          The only way it would be appropriate if heavily qualified, like “a preemptive strike on their nuclear program”. Which would be a reasonable question for them both.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 17:02 last edited by
                            #200

                            And a reasonable action, IMO. They have ballistic missiles and it's only a matter of time before they put a nuke on one.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
                              #201

                              Joe does not approve. I doubt Bibi cares. It could be just a show too. "Oh, I opposed that strike" wink wink.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-states-which-response-from-israel-to-iran-s-strike-us-will-not-approve/ar-AA1rBO77?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b098a54595f6410880dbb48949228919&ei=28

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 6 Oct 2024, 21:19 last edited by
                                #202

                                Lots of fun detail, worth a read if you can get around the paywall.

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/05/israel-mossad-hezbollah-pagers-nasrallah/

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 7 Oct 2024, 13:54 last edited by
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
                                    #204

                                    More deets:

                                    And the best picture:

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:20 last edited by
                                      #205

                                      I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:21 last edited by
                                        #206

                                        I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                          16 Oct 2024, 23:20

                                          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:33 last edited by
                                          #207

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                          On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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