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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

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    @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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      Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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        @taiwan_girl

        Watch. The transcript never reveals everything about human interaction.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

          Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

          Yep. Those trains left the station a thousand years ago.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            The only way it would be appropriate if heavily qualified, like “a preemptive strike on their nuclear program”. Which would be a reasonable question for them both.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              And a reasonable action, IMO. They have ballistic missiles and it's only a matter of time before they put a nuke on one.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Joe does not approve. I doubt Bibi cares. It could be just a show too. "Oh, I opposed that strike" wink wink.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-states-which-response-from-israel-to-iran-s-strike-us-will-not-approve/ar-AA1rBO77?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b098a54595f6410880dbb48949228919&ei=28

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Lots of fun detail, worth a read if you can get around the paywall.

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/05/israel-mossad-hezbollah-pagers-nasrallah/

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                      More deets:

                      And the best picture:

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                        The Brad

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                          I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                            On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                              @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                              There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”

                                Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.

                                The Brad

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                                    @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                    If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

                                    Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?

                                    The Brad

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                                        63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!

                                        The Brad

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                                          Shekels

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