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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 18:02 last edited by
    #21

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/27/your-critique-that-fivethirtyeight-misfired-on-the-2016-race-is-wrong/

    The Brad

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:26 last edited by
      #22

      I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        4 Sept 2024, 19:26

        I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:38 last edited by
        #23

        @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

        I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

        No, but they change their donation intentions… If it’s a close race, donors might go a little higher. If it’s trending downwards, they might either substantially increase or substantially decrease their donations.

        The Brad

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:40 last edited by
          #24

          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

          The Brad

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          • L LuFins Dad
            4 Sept 2024, 19:40

            Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:52 last edited by
            #25

            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

            That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              4 Sept 2024, 19:52

              @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

              Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

              That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 20:02 last edited by
              #26

              @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

              @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

              Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

              That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

              For many, many elections….

              I’m probably a believer in anti-democracy. The more people support a policy, the worse it probably is…

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                4 Sept 2024, 19:40

                Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

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                Horace
                wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 20:36 last edited by
                #27

                @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                That's because fitting in socially is an existential priority for humans. And we're not wired to be aware of that motivation to our beliefs.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 16:26 last edited by
                  #28

                  The Brad

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                    George K
                    wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 16:29 last edited by
                    #29

                    "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                    Yeah, how about that.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                    MikM 1 Reply Last reply 8 Sept 2024, 20:18
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                      Copper
                      wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 18:28 last edited by
                      #30

                      Has cnn published the debate highlights or will they wait until after the debate?

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 18:40 last edited by
                        #31

                        Trump needs to stick to the issues and make his case on the border, energy and the economy. Let her talk. In fact, encourage her to talk and explain what her policies are.

                        The only problem it's going to be three against one during the debate.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K
                          8 Sept 2024, 16:29

                          "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                          Yeah, how about that.

                          MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 20:18 last edited by
                          #32

                          @George-K said in It’s starting:

                          "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                          Yeah, how about that.

                          Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                          George KG 1 Reply Last reply 8 Sept 2024, 21:40
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                            Copper
                            wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 20:22 last edited by
                            #33

                            We have had our share of embarrassing presidential behavior over the last 50 years.

                            But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                            On the other hand, she could be wonderful. It's hard to say while she is hiding.

                            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply 8 Sept 2024, 21:58
                            • MikM Mik
                              8 Sept 2024, 20:18

                              @George-K said in It’s starting:

                              "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                              Yeah, how about that.

                              Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

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                              George K
                              wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 21:40 last edited by
                              #34

                              @Mik said in It’s starting:

                              Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

                              Bernie Sanders said the quiet part out loud this AM.

                              "She's saying doing what she needs to say do to get elected."

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • CopperC Copper
                                8 Sept 2024, 20:22

                                We have had our share of embarrassing presidential behavior over the last 50 years.

                                But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                                On the other hand, she could be wonderful. It's hard to say while she is hiding.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 21:58 last edited by
                                #35

                                @Copper said in It’s starting:

                                But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                                Ask Willie Brown about that one...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                George KG 1 Reply Last reply 8 Sept 2024, 22:09
                                • JollyJ Jolly
                                  8 Sept 2024, 21:58

                                  @Copper said in It’s starting:

                                  But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                                  Ask Willie Brown about that one...

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 22:09 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                  Ask Willie Brown about that one...

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 22:29 last edited by
                                    #37

                                    Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      8 Sept 2024, 22:29

                                      Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 22:44 last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                      Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        8 Sept 2024, 22:29

                                        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 9 Sept 2024, 01:16 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Sept 2024, 01:16
                                        #39

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                        Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 9 Sept 2024, 01:33 last edited by
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