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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

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    LuFins Dad
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

    I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

    No, but they change their donation intentions… If it’s a close race, donors might go a little higher. If it’s trending downwards, they might either substantially increase or substantially decrease their donations.

    The Brad

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      Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

        Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

        That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

          That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

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          LuFins Dad
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

          That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

          For many, many elections….

          I’m probably a believer in anti-democracy. The more people support a policy, the worse it probably is…

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

            That's because fitting in socially is an existential priority for humans. And we're not wired to be aware of that motivation to our beliefs.

            Education is extremely important.

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              The Brad

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                George K
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                "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                Yeah, how about that.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • CopperC Online
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                  Copper
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                  Has cnn published the debate highlights or will they wait until after the debate?

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                    Trump needs to stick to the issues and make his case on the border, energy and the economy. Let her talk. In fact, encourage her to talk and explain what her policies are.

                    The only problem it's going to be three against one during the debate.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG George K

                      "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                      Yeah, how about that.

                      MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      @George-K said in It’s starting:

                      "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                      Yeah, how about that.

                      Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        We have had our share of embarrassing presidential behavior over the last 50 years.

                        But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                        On the other hand, she could be wonderful. It's hard to say while she is hiding.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @George-K said in It’s starting:

                          "voters are unsure they know enough about where Kamala Harris stands"

                          Yeah, how about that.

                          Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

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                          George K
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                          @Mik said in It’s starting:

                          Does it matter where she stands if she is unable to deliver on any of it?

                          Bernie Sanders said the quiet part out loud this AM.

                          "She's saying doing what she needs to say do to get elected."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            We have had our share of embarrassing presidential behavior over the last 50 years.

                            But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                            On the other hand, she could be wonderful. It's hard to say while she is hiding.

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                            @Copper said in It’s starting:

                            But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                            Ask Willie Brown about that one...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Copper said in It’s starting:

                              But Ms. Harris could take us places we haven't yet imagined.

                              Ask Willie Brown about that one...

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                              @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                              Ask Willie Brown about that one...

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                  Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                    Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                    Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                        Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                        Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

                                        Beyond that, the guy sued a widow to get her to move out of her home so he could build a casino. He was one of the filthiest and most obnoxious guests on Howard Stern. He is the very epitome of sleaze.

                                        And yet the Democrats keep putting up candidates that are even worse. It really is astounding.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                          Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

                                          Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

                                          Beyond that, the guy sued a widow to get her to move out of her home so he could build a casino. He was one of the filthiest and most obnoxious guests on Howard Stern. He is the very epitome of sleaze.

                                          And yet the Democrats keep putting up candidates that are even worse. It really is astounding.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                          He is the very epitome of sleaze.

                                          I've come to the conclusion that a fair number of his supporters actually like that about him, which is quite a sad reflection of where we are.

                                          I was only joking

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