It's Walz
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:53 last edited by
@LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:
Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.
Yeah and who set the fires in Portland in DC?
Which you may counter with Jan 6 nonsense.
My point is it's ridiculous at this point to attribute the nation's growing radicalism to Trump. We've been marching farther down this road for over a decade.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:54 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Jun 2024, 19:55
It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.
Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:59 last edited by
@LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:
I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.
This choice will probably cost Harris the election.
Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.
Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.
A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.
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It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.
Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:00 last edited byIt’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.
Agree, weird argument.
Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).
Because the nutters, the Portland contingent of which, turned their city into fucking Gangland, thought they won the election, not because of anything constructive Biden or Kamala did. It's all bottom-up, not top-down.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:01 last edited by
You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.
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@LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:
I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.
This choice will probably cost Harris the election.
Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.
Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.
A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.
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I didn't think anyone I knew actually watched that show. Live and learn.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:08 last edited by
You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.
It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.
Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.
This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.
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You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.
It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.
Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.
This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:37 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:
You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.
It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.
Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.
This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.
There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.
And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.
The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.
And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:49 last edited by
Which one is the party of the "elites" now?
Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.
Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school
Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.
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Which one is the party of the "elites" now?
Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.
Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school
Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:
You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.
It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.
Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.
This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.
There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.
And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.
The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.
And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:58 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 20:59And it doesn’t have to be about Race.
True enough but Race is what puts the sizzle in the rabble’s flambé.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:25 last edited by
I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious
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I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:34 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:
I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious
Why is that hilarious?
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:41 last edited by
I'm watching the Harris/Walz rally in Philly. Shapiro's on stage and he's spent the last 15 minutes yelling.
Literally yelling.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:43 last edited by
@George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.
Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…
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wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:48 last edited by
Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.
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@George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.
Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:51 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:
When the number of views far exceed the likes
It is never going to be otherwise. It's not possible.
And when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes.
What that means is "kneejerk reactions." Usually it means an extreme—could be good, could be bad.
Although in politics, it would be exceedingly rare indeed for this to be a positive indication. Like if Biden punched out RFK or something I guess it might happen but it's far from the norm.
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Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.
wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:54 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:
Walz retired
By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.