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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Renauda said in It's Walz:

    I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

    This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

    Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

    @Renauda said in It's Walz:

    I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

    This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

    Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

    Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

    A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

      Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

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      #24

      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

      It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

      Agree, weird argument.

      Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

      Because the nutters, the Portland contingent of which, turned their city into fucking Gangland, thought they won the election, not because of anything constructive Biden or Kamala did. It's all bottom-up, not top-down.

      Please love yourself.

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        jon-nyc
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        #25

        You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

          @Renauda said in It's Walz:

          I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

          This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

          Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

          Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

          A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
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          #26

          @Renauda said in It's Walz:

          A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

          At this point my main hope is to wake up like Pam Ewing and realize the last 8 years have all been an awful dream.

          I was only joking

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
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            I didn't think anyone I knew actually watched that show. Live and learn. 😄

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

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              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

              You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

              It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

              Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

              This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

                And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

                The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

                And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

                The Brad

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                  Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                  Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                  Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                  Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                    Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                    Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                    Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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                    @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                    Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                    Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                    Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                    Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

                    Great point! You completely opened my eyes!

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

                      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                      You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                      It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                      Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                      This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                      There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

                      And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

                      The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

                      And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

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                      #32

                      @LuFins-Dad

                      And it doesn’t have to be about Race.

                      True enough but Race is what puts the sizzle in the rabble’s flambé.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #33

                        I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:

                          I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

                          Why is that hilarious?

                          Please love yourself.

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                            I'm watching the Harris/Walz rally in Philly. Shapiro's on stage and he's spent the last 15 minutes yelling.

                            Literally yelling.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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                              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                              @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                              Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

                              The Brad

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                                Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                  @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                                  Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                  When the number of views far exceed the likes

                                  It is never going to be otherwise. It's not possible.

                                  And when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes.

                                  What that means is "kneejerk reactions." Usually it means an extreme—could be good, could be bad.

                                  Although in politics, it would be exceedingly rare indeed for this to be a positive indication. Like if Biden punched out RFK or something I guess it might happen but it's far from the norm.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                    Walz retired

                                    By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      I wonder what Brenda thinks....

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                                      @Mik said in It's Walz:

                                      I wonder what Brenda thinks....

                                      Surely we all know the answer to that.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                                        #41

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                        Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                                        Walz reenlisted 7 days after 9/11, after serving his 20. That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                          Walz retired

                                          By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

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                                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                          Walz retired

                                          By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                                          My what prescient Swiftboaters they were!

                                          Like I wrote they wasted no time to deploy. Hell, they were already in the water!

                                          Elbows up!

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