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  • A Axtremus
    6 Aug 2024, 20:49

    Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

    Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

    Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

    Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:52 last edited by
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    @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

    Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

    Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

    Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

    Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

    Great point! You completely opened my eyes!

    The Brad

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    • L LuFins Dad
      6 Aug 2024, 20:37

      @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

      You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

      It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

      Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

      This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

      There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

      And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

      The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

      And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:58 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 20:59
      #32

      @LuFins-Dad

      And it doesn’t have to be about Race.

      True enough but Race is what puts the sizzle in the rabble’s flambé.

      Elbows up!

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:25 last edited by
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        I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          6 Aug 2024, 21:25

          I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:34 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:

          I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

          Why is that hilarious?

          Please love yourself.

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            George K
            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:41 last edited by
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            I'm watching the Harris/Walz rally in Philly. Shapiro's on stage and he's spent the last 15 minutes yelling.

            Literally yelling.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • J jon-nyc
              6 Aug 2024, 18:04

              @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:43 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

              @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

              Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

              The Brad

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:48 last edited by
                #37

                Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  6 Aug 2024, 21:43

                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                  @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                  Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:51 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                  When the number of views far exceed the likes

                  It is never going to be otherwise. It's not possible.

                  And when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes.

                  What that means is "kneejerk reactions." Usually it means an extreme—could be good, could be bad.

                  Although in politics, it would be exceedingly rare indeed for this to be a positive indication. Like if Biden punched out RFK or something I guess it might happen but it's far from the norm.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    6 Aug 2024, 21:48

                    Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:54 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                    Walz retired

                    By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • M Mik
                      6 Aug 2024, 13:37

                      I wonder what Brenda thinks....

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:56 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in It's Walz:

                      I wonder what Brenda thinks....

                      Surely we all know the answer to that.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        6 Aug 2024, 21:48

                        Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:58 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Jun 2024, 22:00
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                        Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                        Walz reenlisted 7 days after 9/11, after serving his 20. That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • G George K
                          6 Aug 2024, 21:54

                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                          Walz retired

                          By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 22:23 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 22:25
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                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                          Walz retired

                          By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                          My what prescient Swiftboaters they were!

                          Like I wrote they wasted no time to deploy. Hell, they were already in the water!

                          Elbows up!

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 22:27 last edited by
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                            I've listened to Walz. I know he is a masculine and common sense sort of pick for the left. I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard. He wants to position himself that way, it will align the opposition.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              6 Aug 2024, 21:58

                              @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                              Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                              Walz reenlisted 7 days after 9/11, after serving his 20. That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 23:31 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                              That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

                              And another loss for Trump to Biden. Trump only got 4 student deferments and on 1-Y classification. Biden got FIVE student deferments and a 1-Y deferment.

                              WINNER!

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • H Horace
                                6 Aug 2024, 22:27

                                I've listened to Walz. I know he is a masculine and common sense sort of pick for the left. I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard. He wants to position himself that way, it will align the opposition.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 23:48 last edited by
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                                @Horace

                                I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard.

                                I listened to his interview in which calls Trump that. Didn’t care much for it all either. He does not use the epithet with the same erudition and panache as Sean Bean:

                                Link to video

                                Elbows up!

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 23:52 last edited by
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                                  The most spontaneous, unscripted, not cringe-worthy phone call ever.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 00:39 last edited by
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                                    You know, the wife has multiple kinfolk who served in Vietnam. Including one with a bronze or silver star (TBH, I've forgotten which).

                                    I don't think I've ever heard any of them knock anybody for staying out of Nam, by any legal means possible.

                                    The Vietnam service argument might work with some of the below 40 crowd, who simply don't know any better, but I thinks it's a non-issue.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      6 Aug 2024, 23:52

                                      The most spontaneous, unscripted, not cringe-worthy phone call ever.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 01:23 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                      Cringey.

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        6 Aug 2024, 14:52

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 01:40 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 01:43 last edited by
                                          #50

                                          I am so pissed at DeSantis.

                                          The Brad

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