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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

    You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

    It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

    Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

    This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

      You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

      It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

      Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

      This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

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      @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

      You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

      It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

      Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

      This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

      There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

      And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

      The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

      And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

      The Brad

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        Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

        Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

        Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

        Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

          Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

          Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

          Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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          @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

          Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

          Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

          Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

          Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

          Great point! You completely opened my eyes!

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

            It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

            Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

            This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

            There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

            And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

            The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

            And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

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            @LuFins-Dad

            And it doesn’t have to be about Race.

            True enough but Race is what puts the sizzle in the rabble’s flambé.

            Elbows up!

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              #33

              I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:

                I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

                Why is that hilarious?

                Please love yourself.

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                  I'm watching the Harris/Walz rally in Philly. Shapiro's on stage and he's spent the last 15 minutes yelling.

                  Literally yelling.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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                    @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                    @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                    Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

                    The Brad

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                      Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                        @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                        Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                        When the number of views far exceed the likes

                        It is never going to be otherwise. It's not possible.

                        And when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes.

                        What that means is "kneejerk reactions." Usually it means an extreme—could be good, could be bad.

                        Although in politics, it would be exceedingly rare indeed for this to be a positive indication. Like if Biden punched out RFK or something I guess it might happen but it's far from the norm.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                          Walz retired

                          By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I wonder what Brenda thinks....

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                            @Mik said in It's Walz:

                            I wonder what Brenda thinks....

                            Surely we all know the answer to that.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                              Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                              Walz reenlisted 7 days after 9/11, after serving his 20. That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                Walz retired

                                By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

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                                @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                Walz retired

                                By the way, that article I linked - it's from 6 years ago.

                                My what prescient Swiftboaters they were!

                                Like I wrote they wasted no time to deploy. Hell, they were already in the water!

                                Elbows up!

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                                  I've listened to Walz. I know he is a masculine and common sense sort of pick for the left. I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard. He wants to position himself that way, it will align the opposition.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                    Think about the moment in the VP Debate when Vance brings up the fact that Walz retired to avoid the combat that Vance enlisted for.

                                    Walz reenlisted 7 days after 9/11, after serving his 20. That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                    That’s not what you would do if you were afraid of service during wartime like Trump.

                                    And another loss for Trump to Biden. Trump only got 4 student deferments and on 1-Y classification. Biden got FIVE student deferments and a 1-Y deferment.

                                    WINNER!

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      I've listened to Walz. I know he is a masculine and common sense sort of pick for the left. I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard. He wants to position himself that way, it will align the opposition.

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                                      @Horace

                                      I didn't so much like the language he used when he called Trump a bastard.

                                      I listened to his interview in which calls Trump that. Didn’t care much for it all either. He does not use the epithet with the same erudition and panache as Sean Bean:

                                      Link to video

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        The most spontaneous, unscripted, not cringe-worthy phone call ever.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          You know, the wife has multiple kinfolk who served in Vietnam. Including one with a bronze or silver star (TBH, I've forgotten which).

                                          I don't think I've ever heard any of them knock anybody for staying out of Nam, by any legal means possible.

                                          The Vietnam service argument might work with some of the below 40 crowd, who simply don't know any better, but I thinks it's a non-issue.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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