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Let's talk Venezuela

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Had election.

    Maduro... claims he won, but other data says he lost by 75% of the vote to Gonzalez of the opposition party?

    Maduro just arrested Superlano, the opposition party's coalition leader?

    Civil war imminent.

    @jon-nyc I vote your next vacation is there, and plz report back. THANKS!

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Jon's gone all Inca on us. You won't see him in Caracas.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #3

        I actually worked there for maybe 6-8 weeks in 1997. For PDVSA no less, the state run oil company.

        My last visit was in the fall of 1998, right around the time Chavez took power. I went there to visit a girl I had been working with in São Paulo (long story). Gasoline was 17c a gallon domestically.

        Around then I also spent some time in Bogota. At that time Bogota was dangerous and Caracas was safe. It’s exactly the opposite now.

        Something like 20% of the population has fled the country since then. Almost all the people I worked with there fled early, as they had good jobs with multinational corporations.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #4

          Screenshot 2024-07-30 at 6.05.14 PM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

              Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Jolly said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

                Exactly. It's very impressive, but I see stories that Maduro is cracking down on the protests and rallies.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  It wasn't in Iran.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Maduro still has hold in over the army. If he were to lose that control then it’s good night Caracas for him and his regime.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Hopefully it will work. Reading back on Premier Ceausescu, nobody really predicted that or thought it was possible. (But I think that was more of a coupe than a true public uprising and overthrow).

                      Sad what is happening to the people down there in Ven.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Well, at least some of the criminal element is out of the mix.

                        They're here...

                        https://nypost.com/2024/07/30/us-news/venezuelan-gang-tren-de-aragua-gives-green-light-to-shoot-denver-cops/

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          #12

                          The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                          I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                            I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                            The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                            I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

                            Nah, he just did a Biden.

                            A politically expedient big lie, with no intention of doing anything you say.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                              The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                              I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

                              Nah, he just did a Biden.

                              A politically expedient big lie, with no intention of doing anything you say.

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              #14

                              @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

                                I saw a chart indicating that pre-Chavez, Venezuela was the richest country in South America. It is now the poorest.

                                https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/venezuela-economic-woes-2017-explained/

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #16

                                  Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Omg the stupid - it burns.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                    Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                      Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                      Now do Great Britain.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Omg the stupid - it burns.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                        Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                          #20

                                          When Trump made that statement, was it correct?

                                          Trump's campaign line has been that the border problem has led to increased crime in the U.S., because Venezuela had shipped a lot of their criminals northward. Since they had less criminals, Venezuela 's crime rate had fallen.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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