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Let's talk Venezuela

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Jon's gone all Inca on us. You won't see him in Caracas.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #3

      I actually worked there for maybe 6-8 weeks in 1997. For PDVSA no less, the state run oil company.

      My last visit was in the fall of 1998, right around the time Chavez took power. I went there to visit a girl I had been working with in São Paulo (long story). Gasoline was 17c a gallon domestically.

      Around then I also spent some time in Bogota. At that time Bogota was dangerous and Caracas was safe. It’s exactly the opposite now.

      Something like 20% of the population has fled the country since then. Almost all the people I worked with there fled early, as they had good jobs with multinational corporations.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #4

        Screenshot 2024-07-30 at 6.05.14 PM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #5

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            JollyJ Offline
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            #6

            @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

            Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

              Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

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              George K
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              #7

              @Jolly said in Let's talk Venezuela:

              Yeah, but is it going to be enough?

              Exactly. It's very impressive, but I see stories that Maduro is cracking down on the protests and rallies.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                #8

                It wasn't in Iran.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Maduro still has hold in over the army. If he were to lose that control then it’s good night Caracas for him and his regime.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    Hopefully it will work. Reading back on Premier Ceausescu, nobody really predicted that or thought it was possible. (But I think that was more of a coupe than a true public uprising and overthrow).

                    Sad what is happening to the people down there in Ven.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #11

                      Well, at least some of the criminal element is out of the mix.

                      They're here...

                      https://nypost.com/2024/07/30/us-news/venezuelan-gang-tren-de-aragua-gives-green-light-to-shoot-denver-cops/

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                        I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                          I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                          The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                          I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

                          Nah, he just did a Biden.

                          A politically expedient big lie, with no intention of doing anything you say.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                            The US signed a "secret" MOU with Venezuela last May '23 that would reduce sanctions and restore diplomacy IF Maduro held free fair elections.

                            I guess Maduro just read the part about holding elections. LOL

                            Nah, he just did a Biden.

                            A politically expedient big lie, with no intention of doing anything you say.

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                            @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

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                              @taiwan_girl said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                              @Jolly As a county, Venezuela had a lot to gain if he had followed through. Sad for the citizens of the country.

                              I saw a chart indicating that pre-Chavez, Venezuela was the richest country in South America. It is now the poorest.

                              https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/venezuela-economic-woes-2017-explained/

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Omg the stupid - it burns.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                  Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                    Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                    Now do Great Britain.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Omg the stupid - it burns.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                      Omg the stupid - it burns.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                        #20

                                        When Trump made that statement, was it correct?

                                        Trump's campaign line has been that the border problem has led to increased crime in the U.S., because Venezuela had shipped a lot of their criminals northward. Since they had less criminals, Venezuela 's crime rate had fallen.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                          Now do Great Britain.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          @George-K said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Let's talk Venezuela:

                                          Now do Great Britain.

                                          You mean the first Islamist state with nookilur weapons?

                                          I was only joking

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