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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.

    It's not the movies.

    Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".

    The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.

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    @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".

    Ok, I've rewatched that part four or five times. You're right, I'm wrong. Trump did go down on purpose.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      What sad crazy thing to wake up to. 😞

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      • George KG George K

        Go full screen...

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        @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

        Go full screen...

        The guy was killed by counter sniper fire. Could well be...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

          And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

          Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

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          @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

          @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

          And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

          Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

          Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

            Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

            Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

            Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

            Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

            I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #88

              BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

                Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

                Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

                I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.

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                @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

                Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

                Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

                I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.

                And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.

                The Brad

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?

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                  @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                  BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?

                  He's a convicted felon, dont'cha know?

                  https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bennie-thompson-secret-services-rfk-1892371

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    If it doesn’t contain an element of real blood lust, it’s not diagnosable as TDS, per the DSM.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

                      Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

                      Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

                      I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.

                      And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.

                      Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.

                      Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…

                      I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.

                      And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.

                      If he's not happy at Trump getting shot, he's fooled me...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                        Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.

                        It's not the movies.

                        Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".

                        The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.

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                        @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                        @kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                        Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.

                        It's not the movies.

                        Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".

                        The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.

                        You're right. The first video I saw was at a higher level - and I couldn't see the Secret Service who were there - immediately. The only one I saw from other angle was the guy who showed up 2-3 seconds after the shot.

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                          The egg on the Secret Service's face is not securing the rooftop and I'm sure facts will be forthcoming.

                          If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied...Well, that's going to be interesting...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            What sad crazy thing to wake up to. 😞

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                            What sad crazy thing to wake up to. 😞

                            Did you have a good sleep, at least?

                            The Brad

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              The egg on the Secret Service's face is not securing the rooftop and I'm sure facts will be forthcoming.

                              If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied...Well, that's going to be interesting...

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                              @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                              If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied

                              That's coming from the Trump camp. Take it for what it's worth considering the source.

                              I'm sure there are documented communications, right?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Congressman Ronny Jackson had gotten his nephew a seat on the stage for the Trump Rally Jackson says his nephew has a bullet burn on his neck, while a man was shot behind him.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                  What sad crazy thing to wake up to. 😞

                                  Did you have a good sleep, at least?

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                  What sad crazy thing to wake up to. 😞

                                  Did you have a good sleep, at least?

                                  1. Actually no. I had a pizza last night and I think the spices in the pizza made me wake up thirsty a couple of time during the night. aaargh!!
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                                    Newt is blaming democrat rhetoric demonizing Mr. Trump.

                                    This is not the last time we will hear this.

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                                      And another thing...Bongino has been saying somebody was going to take a crack at Trump. Dan still has contacts in the Secret Service...Reckon he was just opining or had he maybe been told something?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Guys, this is literally Hitler we are talking about. Why are you all upset?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          Guys, this is literally Hitler we are talking about. Why are you all upset?

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                          Guys, this is literally Hitler we are talking about. Why are you all upset?

                                          I'm upset because we can no longer tell the difference between a douchebag who is conservative and Hitler.

                                          Please love yourself.

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