Trump - Butler, PA
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Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.
@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.
It's not the movies.
Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".
The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Biden just can’t catch a break.
I think he did. Without this afternoon, tomorrow’s pundit shows would have all been focused, echoing, and amplifying the calls for him to drop out. It would have been over. The Biden dementia story just got moved to the back page, and by the time it comes back up, it’s likely too late to replace him on the ticket.
Now, I think it’s very likely that today’s events drove the nail in his November coffin, but it bought him a week at the least.
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@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Biden just can’t catch a break.
I think he did. Without this afternoon, tomorrow’s pundit shows would have all been focused, echoing, and amplifying the calls for him to drop out. It would have been over. The Biden dementia story just got moved to the back page, and by the time it comes back up, it’s likely too late to replace him on the ticket.
Now, I think it’s very likely that today’s events drove the nail in his November coffin, but it bought him a week at the least.
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
The Biden dementia story just got moved to the back page, and by the time it comes back up, it’s likely too late to replace him on the ticket.
Interesting observation. You might well be right.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
So that wraps up 2024 Presidential Election… Does it play down ballot?
Reagan’s approval rating went up 22% after he was shot.
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
So that wraps up 2024 Presidential Election… Does it play down ballot?
Reagan’s approval rating went up 22% after he was shot.
I think Trump’s can only go up by 2.2%… That’s all the room that’s left…But it’s likely enough.
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@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.
It's not the movies.
Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".
The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".
Ok, I've rewatched that part four or five times. You're right, I'm wrong. Trump did go down on purpose.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
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@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.
And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.
The Brad
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BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
BTW, you reckon the Dems are going to introduce another bill to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection?
He's a convicted felon, dont'cha know?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bennie-thompson-secret-services-rfk-1892371
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@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.
And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:
And the big fat pussy still left the stage. The ghost of TR is wondering where the men are these days.
Again, not a good look. This says more about you than anything else.
Don’t mind Jon. That’s just the sheer frustration of seeing somebody ostensibly on his side do something colossally stupid and damaging to his core ideals and beliefs. It’s the same way a number of us felt on January 6, a few years back…
I don't recall any of us saying that the Jan 6 riot was a good thing. We've disagreed on whether Trump was responsible or whether punishments fit the crimes, but none of us were joyous at the event.
And I haven’t seen Jon overjoyed or even remotely happy about today. He’s frustrated, and I get why.
If he's not happy at Trump getting shot, he's fooled me...
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@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.
It's not the movies.
Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".
The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@kluurs said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Watching the video of the event, it appears that Trump quickly took evasive action - but I was surprised at how long it took for 1) Secret Service to get on stage and 2) get him off the stage. If that guy was a better shot, this might have ended differently.
It's not the movies.
Trump went down because he was grazed on the ear by a bullet... There's pain from the bullet and pain from the air pressure "slap".
The Secret Service acted fairly quickly AFTER they realized what was happening. They would not let Trump up, covering him with their bodies. If you listen close to the tape, you'll hear somebody yelling "Shooter down! Shooter down!"...The Secret Service did not let him up until then. They then shielded him all the way to the SUV.
You're right. The first video I saw was at a higher level - and I couldn't see the Secret Service who were there - immediately. The only one I saw from other angle was the guy who showed up 2-3 seconds after the shot.
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The egg on the Secret Service's face is not securing the rooftop and I'm sure facts will be forthcoming.
If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied...Well, that's going to be interesting...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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What sad crazy thing to wake up to.
@taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:
What sad crazy thing to wake up to.
Did you have a good sleep, at least?
The Brad
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The egg on the Secret Service's face is not securing the rooftop and I'm sure facts will be forthcoming.
If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied...Well, that's going to be interesting...
@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:
If George's comment was correct and additional Secret Service was asked for and denied
That's coming from the Trump camp. Take it for what it's worth considering the source.
I'm sure there are documented communications, right?
