The Crime
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 17:32 last edited by
All hype, no thought.
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For these people, life is about nothing but the avoidance of death.
Well, nobody actually thinks or believes in those terms, but gosh millions of people will gladly propagate messaging that is exactly in those terms. So I don't give these people a pass because after they're done propagating that messaging, they say that actually, of course, obviously, duh, it's way more nuanced than that. They hit people over the head with a big club of a meme, then claim to actually be very gentle and well thought out people.
A global pandemic fucking sucks. There's no way around that. But I'd say that increased isolation in the age of technology we live in is better than death, crippling medical debt that does you in, and/or permanent damage from a virus we don't fully understand.
I don't look down at my friends who have physical jobs and have to show up to pay rent, or folks who go to stores because deliveries aren't available where they are. I also understand the cost/benefit of checking in on lonely loved ones. But yeah, biker rally attendees can eat shit. If that's me virtue signaling then let me make some google ad banners to make it more obvious.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 17:46 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
For these people, life is about nothing but the avoidance of death.
Well, nobody actually thinks or believes in those terms, but gosh millions of people will gladly propagate messaging that is exactly in those terms. So I don't give these people a pass because after they're done propagating that messaging, they say that actually, of course, obviously, duh, it's way more nuanced than that. They hit people over the head with a big club of a meme, then claim to actually be very gentle and well thought out people.
A global pandemic fucking sucks. There's no way around that. But I'd say that increased isolation in the age of technology we live in is better than death, crippling medical debt that does you in, and/or permanent damage from a virus we don't fully understand.
I don't look down at my friends who have physical jobs and have to show up to pay rent, or folks who go to stores because deliveries aren't available where they are. I also understand the cost/benefit of checking in on lonely loved ones. But yeah, biker rally attendees can eat shit. If that's me virtue signaling then let me make some google ad banners to make it more obvious.
Sure, I'd prefer people not do those things as well.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 18:01 last edited by
It is time.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 19:12 last edited by
It is time.
You can't run, you can't hide. the goal was to flatten the curve, because anybody with any infection control training at all knows you cannot eradicate a highly contagious virus until it burns itself out...And with mutations, that may never happen.
Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 19:33 last edited by
What are you constrained from doing at the moment?
Here even the gyms are open starting tomorrow. Schools allowed to open statewide. Bar service if it’s a restaurant too. Pools open, beach open. Trains running.
Ok no crowds at the Yankees games. No broadway. Neither figured large in my day to day life.
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It is time.
You can't run, you can't hide. the goal was to flatten the curve, because anybody with any infection control training at all knows you cannot eradicate a highly contagious virus until it burns itself out...And with mutations, that may never happen.
Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 21:36 last edited byMany of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
So you're saying they have a right to demand to do everything they want to do and not be inconvenienced anymore because it's hell to not go to baseball games. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they're a bunch of damn sissies and snowflakes. For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills. They'd be lighting Freedom Fires and getting blown to shit by the Germans. Selfish ninnies not accustomed to the concept of social cooperation.
It's not "restrictions in perpetuity," things have almost completely relaxed already. And we're months away from a vaccine. If that never happens, okay, fuck it, let's roll the dice with herd immunity. But a couple months of being careful isn't Auschwitz for shit's sake.
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Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
So you're saying they have a right to demand to do everything they want to do and not be inconvenienced anymore because it's hell to not go to baseball games. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they're a bunch of damn sissies and snowflakes. For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills. They'd be lighting Freedom Fires and getting blown to shit by the Germans. Selfish ninnies not accustomed to the concept of social cooperation.
It's not "restrictions in perpetuity," things have almost completely relaxed already. And we're months away from a vaccine. If that never happens, okay, fuck it, let's roll the dice with herd immunity. But a couple months of being careful isn't Auschwitz for shit's sake.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:04 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
So you're saying they have a right to demand to do everything they want to do and not be inconvenienced anymore because it's hell to not go to baseball games. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they're a bunch of damn sissies and snowflakes. For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills. They'd be lighting Freedom Fires and getting blown to shit by the Germans. Selfish ninnies not accustomed to the concept of social cooperation.
It's not "restrictions in perpetuity," things have almost completely relaxed already. And we're months away from a vaccine. If that never happens, okay, fuck it, let's roll the dice with herd immunity. But a couple months of being careful isn't Auschwitz for shit's sake.
They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
So you're saying they have a right to demand to do everything they want to do and not be inconvenienced anymore because it's hell to not go to baseball games. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they're a bunch of damn sissies and snowflakes. For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills. They'd be lighting Freedom Fires and getting blown to shit by the Germans. Selfish ninnies not accustomed to the concept of social cooperation.
It's not "restrictions in perpetuity," things have almost completely relaxed already. And we're months away from a vaccine. If that never happens, okay, fuck it, let's roll the dice with herd immunity. But a couple months of being careful isn't Auschwitz for shit's sake.
They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:10 last edited byThey have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
But they're not just taking their chances. They're a risk for everyone they get into contact with.
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They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
But they're not just taking their chances. They're a risk for everyone they get into contact with.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:11 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
But they're not just taking their chances. They're a risk for everyone they get into contact with.
People are at risk, anyway. The question is how much risk is tolerable?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
But they're not just taking their chances. They're a risk for everyone they get into contact with.
People are at risk, anyway. The question is how much risk is tolerable?
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:14 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
They have a right, after a certain point, to take their chances with the disease, since they cannot avoid it. If you (generic you) wish to take precautions, by all means do it. If the most vulnerable among us, nursing home oatient, etc., need special precautions accommodate them.
But they're not just taking their chances. They're a risk for everyone they get into contact with.
People are at risk, anyway. The question is how much risk is tolerable?
I would say some risk. But they don't get to do everything they damn well want because they don't have the fortitude to be considerate. Sorry. It's gross just how little people are willing to do: no masks, no holding off on mass events, no holding off on visiting the elderly after you've gone to said mass events, etc.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:24 last edited by
I think down here, the major inconveniences are church, bars, sporting events and school...Not necessarily in that order.
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I think down here, the major inconveniences are church, bars, sporting events and school...Not necessarily in that order.
wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:32 last edited byI think down here, the major inconveniences are church, bars, sporting events and school...Not necessarily in that order.
School's definitely an issue. I'd say sure, Church too, but up here, open-air services have become a thing. I don't see why that can't be done down there.
As for bars and sporting events... suck it the hell up.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:33 last edited by
This is Louisiana. Football and bars are akin to church.
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wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 23:34 last edited by
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Many of the people calling for a return to "normalcy" are not snowflakes, nor are they idiots. They are tired of living a restricted life, one that may have restrictions in perpetuity. At some point, it ceases to be life and turns into a Howard Hughes nightmare scenario of Chinese water torture via coronavirus.
So you're saying they have a right to demand to do everything they want to do and not be inconvenienced anymore because it's hell to not go to baseball games. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they're a bunch of damn sissies and snowflakes. For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills. They'd be lighting Freedom Fires and getting blown to shit by the Germans. Selfish ninnies not accustomed to the concept of social cooperation.
It's not "restrictions in perpetuity," things have almost completely relaxed already. And we're months away from a vaccine. If that never happens, okay, fuck it, let's roll the dice with herd immunity. But a couple months of being careful isn't Auschwitz for shit's sake.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 01:14 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills.
Interesting (and good) comment. Maybe some parallel to what people did in the World War 2.
Fighing an enemy
not knowing how long it would be
making sacrifices to defeat the enemy
etc.(and the sacrifices we are asked to make now are so much less than then).
There was a meme earlier (maybe even on our COVID meme thread) that said something like:
In an earlier time, people your age were asked to go off to war to fight the enemy.
You are being asked to sit on your couch.
I think you can handle it!! LOL -
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 02:01 last edited by
Yes, they have the right to live their lives
The economy gets worse every day
Careers are being ruined, lives are being ruined
The Governors emergency power shouldn't last forever, nor should it last much longer
The number of people under age 20 who have been hospitalized or died due to covid in Virginia is still zero
Zero
Why ruin their lives over nothing?
Yes, nothing - zero
Certainly not a big scary pandemic
Over age 20, is a different story
But still we have gone way over the line
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Crime:
For all the big talk about bootstraps, these people wouldn't survive a week of 1940s blackout drills.
Interesting (and good) comment. Maybe some parallel to what people did in the World War 2.
Fighing an enemy
not knowing how long it would be
making sacrifices to defeat the enemy
etc.(and the sacrifices we are asked to make now are so much less than then).
There was a meme earlier (maybe even on our COVID meme thread) that said something like:
In an earlier time, people your age were asked to go off to war to fight the enemy.
You are being asked to sit on your couch.
I think you can handle it!! LOLwrote on 23 Aug 2020, 02:04 last edited by Aqua Letifer@taiwan_girl said in The Crime:
(and the sacrifices we are asked to make now are so much less than then).
I'm sorry (not sorry), but that's undeniable. Facetime > letters from a limited mail service. Instacart > freedom gardens. Social distancing for 1 year > blackouts for 5. Limited gatherings > ration books, cold showers, scrap drives, nurse volunteers and war bonds. Do what you tell the derelict poor to do and do your fucking part.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 02:10 last edited by 89th
Maybe I misread it but I simply don’t believe the study if they say more than a quarter of 18-24 year olds have thought about killing themselves over the last month. No way. Probably isn’t even 1/10 of that figure.
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Yes, they have the right to live their lives
The economy gets worse every day
Careers are being ruined, lives are being ruined
The Governors emergency power shouldn't last forever, nor should it last much longer
The number of people under age 20 who have been hospitalized or died due to covid in Virginia is still zero
Zero
Why ruin their lives over nothing?
Yes, nothing - zero
Certainly not a big scary pandemic
Over age 20, is a different story
But still we have gone way over the line
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 02:35 last edited by
The number of people under age 20 who have been hospitalized or died due to covid in Virginia is still zero
Zero
Why ruin their lives over nothing?You know they can infect others, right?
No, Copper's justifying the behavior he's not willing to change for any reason.