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  • J Jolly
    14 Aug 2020, 17:10

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

    @Mik said in Mutiny:

    I don't think they give a crap where you work as long as the revenue stream is uninterrupted. I drove through a large office park today and the car volume was maybe 20% of what it normally is. Working from home is not an anomaly anymore.

    They're firing my co-worker. They're going through with it.

    And I'm next.

    That's not paranoia talking, my boss was told that I'll be next.

    They're removing my co-worker's position, that's how they're handling that one. With me they're going to try gross negligence. Our dept head is getting help with that. "Well I've heard from some people that he's doing an okay job but from others, there have been very serious concerns."

    Well, you can always offer to be laid off, rather than be fired for cause. At least that way, you get your unemployment.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:12 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in Mutiny:

    Well, you can always offer to be laid off, rather than be fired for cause. At least that way, you get your unemployment.

    They're not going to do that shit. These people are evil. When my other co-worker was fired back in June, he even offered to help them transition for as long as is needed. Our dept head didn't go for it. "I'm not giving that asshole anything. " Direct quote.

    Please love yourself.

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      14 Aug 2020, 17:11

      Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:12 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

      Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

      I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

      Please love yourself.

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        Mik
        wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:12 last edited by
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        You will most likely get your unemployment anyway. Disagreeing is not likely to be seen as willful disobedience.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • M Mik
          14 Aug 2020, 17:12

          You will most likely get your unemployment anyway. Disagreeing is not likely to be seen as willful disobedience.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:13 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Mutiny:

          You will most likely get your unemployment anyway. Disagreeing is not likely to be seen as willful disobedience.

          They're going to try very hard. And they're going to have the support of HR and two other department heads. All I have are a mountain of emails saying what they received was great. So I'm figuring out how to archive all of that now.

          Please love yourself.

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            Mik
            wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:15 last edited by
            #25

            Just print it and scan it.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • M Mik
              14 Aug 2020, 17:15

              Just print it and scan it.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:21 last edited by
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              @Mik said in Mutiny:

              Just print it and scan it.

              It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

              Please love yourself.

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                George K
                wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:24 last edited by
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                Oh, man. Hope you come out okay in this mess.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  14 Aug 2020, 17:12

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

                  Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

                  I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:40 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

                  Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

                  I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

                  The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

                  I was only joking

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    14 Aug 2020, 17:21

                    @Mik said in Mutiny:

                    Just print it and scan it.

                    It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 17:45 last edited by Mik
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                    @Mik said in Mutiny:

                    Just print it and scan it.

                    It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

                    There is an export function in Outlook but they are hard to read.

                    But 7,000 emails will not be useful in any action unless you file a big dollar suit. Just save the ones that support your claim as documentary evidence. I'd just forward them to myself and save them in a folder.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      14 Aug 2020, 17:40

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

                      Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

                      I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

                      The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 18:58 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

                      Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

                      I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

                      The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

                      That's an excellent idea.

                      Unfortunately, I only found one that I could join that wouldn't involve my employer signing a contract with me, and they don't have lawyers on retainer that could represent me in court. They do have lawyers, though, who offer guidance and support. And honestly, I think that's all I need. I get the phone call, and I can say, "before you go any further, I need to talk to my union representation about this, so please forward me your action so that I can consult with them."

                      I think that'll put the brakes on at least the worst of the shenanigans.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 23:31 last edited by
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                        Well, somebody just fucked up.

                        Last week, our VP told my boss that she's heard very serious allegations about the quality of my work by two other managers in the organization: another VP, and a Director. She mentioned these people by name. She said they have complaints and concerns about me.

                        My manager followed up with both of these people. Not only did they completely disagree with my VP's assessment, they denied ever having these conversations, and were angered to hear that our VP was putting words in their mouth. They both offered to give my manager written statements supporting me if needed.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 23:34 last edited by
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                          Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 23:41 last edited by
                            #33

                            That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                            Just amazing...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Horace
                              20 Aug 2020, 23:34

                              Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 23:49 last edited by
                              #34

                              @Horace said in Mutiny:

                              Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

                              I pissed her off when she started because I refused to work Mother's Day Sunday. She hates my boss because he won't admit that he's stupid, and she hates my one remaining co-worker because she didn't hire her. This woman's a fucking fruit loop.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • G George K
                                20 Aug 2020, 23:41

                                That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                                Just amazing...

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 23:51 last edited by
                                #35

                                @George-K said in Mutiny:

                                That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                                Just amazing...

                                Already got one. It's part-time only right now, but it takes priority over that other damn place. My boss and I consider every other paycheck from them from here on out punitive damages.

                                That's not the only thing going on, though. Man oh man, will I likely have a story for you by the end of the year.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Rainman
                                  wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 01:20 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  OK.
                                  Call her at 3:00 am. Whisper softly and ask whether she's had her brake lines checked.
                                  Quietly hang up,

                                  The next night, call her again. Breathe heavily.
                                  Quietly hang up.

                                  Oh, almost forgot. Don't use your own phone. Steal a colleague's for a couple of days.

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                                  • RainmanR Rainman
                                    21 Aug 2020, 01:20

                                    OK.
                                    Call her at 3:00 am. Whisper softly and ask whether she's had her brake lines checked.
                                    Quietly hang up,

                                    The next night, call her again. Breathe heavily.
                                    Quietly hang up.

                                    Oh, almost forgot. Don't use your own phone. Steal a colleague's for a couple of days.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 01:25 last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                                    Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                                    FIFY.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      21 Aug 2020, 01:25

                                      @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                                      Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                                      FIFY.

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                                      Rainman
                                      wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 01:29 last edited by Rainman
                                      #38

                                      @George-K said in Mutiny:

                                      @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                                      Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                                      FIFY.

                                      Um. Edited to add George's post which otherwise disappears.

                                      "Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days."
                                      OK. Edited again. What George said is above. What I said is below.
                                      As Jon would say: "Jeesus" Wait! I just added the Jeesus part. Not sure if that screws things up even more. WTF. George didn't say anything, either did I. This is all a dream.

                                      Seems that might be the easy part!

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        20 Aug 2020, 23:31

                                        Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                        Last week, our VP told my boss that she's heard very serious allegations about the quality of my work by two other managers in the organization: another VP, and a Director. She mentioned these people by name. She said they have complaints and concerns about me.

                                        My manager followed up with both of these people. Not only did they completely disagree with my VP's assessment, they denied ever having these conversations, and were angered to hear that our VP was putting words in their mouth. They both offered to give my manager written statements supporting me if needed.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 01:41 last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                        Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                        Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                        Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                                          21 Aug 2020, 01:41

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                          Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                          Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                          Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 02:06 last edited by
                                          #40

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Mutiny:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                          Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                          Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                          Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

                                          Yeah that's it. 😆😁

                                          Please love yourself.

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