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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Just print it and scan it.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Just print it and scan it.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #26

      @Mik said in Mutiny:

      Just print it and scan it.

      It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

      Please love yourself.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #27

        Oh, man. Hope you come out okay in this mess.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

          Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

          I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #28

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

          Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

          I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

          The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

          I was only joking

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Mik said in Mutiny:

            Just print it and scan it.

            It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by Mik
            #29

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

            @Mik said in Mutiny:

            Just print it and scan it.

            It's about 7,000 emails. So I'm exporting them all into a CSV.

            There is an export function in Outlook but they are hard to read.

            But 7,000 emails will not be useful in any action unless you file a big dollar suit. Just save the ones that support your claim as documentary evidence. I'd just forward them to myself and save them in a folder.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

              Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

              I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

              The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #30

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mutiny:

              Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to join a union of some sort - do you have time?

              I have maybe about 2-3 weeks. After that I can't guarantee anything. Is that enough time?

              The reason I ask is my SIL went through something similar. She showed up to the meeting where they were going to fire her and brought along a union rep. Company didn't know she was in a union. At that moment everything miraculously changed.

              That's an excellent idea.

              Unfortunately, I only found one that I could join that wouldn't involve my employer signing a contract with me, and they don't have lawyers on retainer that could represent me in court. They do have lawyers, though, who offer guidance and support. And honestly, I think that's all I need. I get the phone call, and I can say, "before you go any further, I need to talk to my union representation about this, so please forward me your action so that I can consult with them."

              I think that'll put the brakes on at least the worst of the shenanigans.

              Please love yourself.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #31

                Well, somebody just fucked up.

                Last week, our VP told my boss that she's heard very serious allegations about the quality of my work by two other managers in the organization: another VP, and a Director. She mentioned these people by name. She said they have complaints and concerns about me.

                My manager followed up with both of these people. Not only did they completely disagree with my VP's assessment, they denied ever having these conversations, and were angered to hear that our VP was putting words in their mouth. They both offered to give my manager written statements supporting me if needed.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #32

                  Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #33

                    That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                    Just amazing...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #34

                      @Horace said in Mutiny:

                      Man what garbage. I hope the manipulative and dishonest slime bags get figuratively punched in the face. What's in it for them to get your fired, anyway?

                      I pissed her off when she started because I refused to work Mother's Day Sunday. She hates my boss because he won't admit that he's stupid, and she hates my one remaining co-worker because she didn't hire her. This woman's a fucking fruit loop.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • George KG George K

                        That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                        Just amazing...

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #35

                        @George-K said in Mutiny:

                        That kind of bullshit and drama would make me start looking for other employment as quickly as possible.

                        Just amazing...

                        Already got one. It's part-time only right now, but it takes priority over that other damn place. My boss and I consider every other paycheck from them from here on out punitive damages.

                        That's not the only thing going on, though. Man oh man, will I likely have a story for you by the end of the year.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Rainman
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                          #36

                          OK.
                          Call her at 3:00 am. Whisper softly and ask whether she's had her brake lines checked.
                          Quietly hang up,

                          The next night, call her again. Breathe heavily.
                          Quietly hang up.

                          Oh, almost forgot. Don't use your own phone. Steal a colleague's for a couple of days.

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                          • RainmanR Rainman

                            OK.
                            Call her at 3:00 am. Whisper softly and ask whether she's had her brake lines checked.
                            Quietly hang up,

                            The next night, call her again. Breathe heavily.
                            Quietly hang up.

                            Oh, almost forgot. Don't use your own phone. Steal a colleague's for a couple of days.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #37

                            @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                            Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                            FIFY.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                              Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                              FIFY.

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                              Rainman
                              wrote on last edited by Rainman
                              #38

                              @George-K said in Mutiny:

                              @Rainman said in Mutiny:

                              Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days.

                              FIFY.

                              Um. Edited to add George's post which otherwise disappears.

                              "Steal a colleague's whom you hate for a couple of days."
                              OK. Edited again. What George said is above. What I said is below.
                              As Jon would say: "Jeesus" Wait! I just added the Jeesus part. Not sure if that screws things up even more. WTF. George didn't say anything, either did I. This is all a dream.

                              Seems that might be the easy part!

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                Last week, our VP told my boss that she's heard very serious allegations about the quality of my work by two other managers in the organization: another VP, and a Director. She mentioned these people by name. She said they have complaints and concerns about me.

                                My manager followed up with both of these people. Not only did they completely disagree with my VP's assessment, they denied ever having these conversations, and were angered to hear that our VP was putting words in their mouth. They both offered to give my manager written statements supporting me if needed.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #39

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                  Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                  Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                  Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #40

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Mutiny:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Mutiny:

                                  Well, somebody just fucked up.

                                  Well, maybe it is possible that there is someone at your company with the name Aqua-Lietfer in stead of Aqua-Leitfer

                                  Maybe they just got the wrong guy!!!

                                  Yeah that's it. 😆😁

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #41

                                    Imminent now.

                                    Our dept head has been talking about making two new hires for months now: a director position, and a grunt. We've been asking since forever what the job description of the director position was going to be—oh, she was still "working that out."

                                    We saw it today, when it was sent to the whole company. Half his job description is my current one.

                                    They put out the second job ad out today. Did not clear it or even talk about it with my boss, or any of us remaining. That job description matches his main responsibilities, and my other half.

                                    My boss attended the senior leadership meeting today, like normal. He said it was a very strange vibe. CEO was wondering aloud how big they really needed to be, and what was the right size for the organization?

                                    I probably have anywhere between a week to a month left.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #42

                                      Could be a bluff. You have other work anyway, right?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Could be a bluff. You have other work anyway, right?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                                        #43

                                        @Mik said in Mutiny:

                                        Could be a bluff. You have other work anyway, right?

                                        Already sent in their first invoice and am working on project 2.

                                        And my boss and I are actively getting 2 more things off the ground. We're about a week away.

                                        Also have almost a year's worth of savings.

                                        I've been preparing for this shit since January.

                                        Still, though, nothing's guaranteed. So, it's stressful.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #44

                                          Judgment day cometh. One way or another it all ends Tuesday, thank God. (Also, I hate these fucking stories. I'm so tired of them.)

                                          I'm tight with the President's EA. She's an editor for some DC publications so we talk word shop a lot.

                                          She was asked by the President to do some editorial thing involving four Important People, and I was to promote it. She sent it to me, I got it ready. Department head asked to see it. She then sent me a seriously shitty email: said she was confused why I even thought this would be a good idea, and she questions my judgment as to why I would do this. She then proceeds to shit all over the EA's work, told me it sucks, my promoting it means I don't know my business, and that I needed to straighten it out with the EA.

                                          I called the EA up, and while on the phone I forwarded her that email. EA lost her shit and said she'd take care of this. EA called my boss first to get the story straight. My boss, who was copied on the emails, confirmed it. He actually had to talk the EA down from bitching this woman out. It came close. They were on the phone for an hour.

                                          EA finally reached out, was cordial, and didn't throw me under the bus. But dept head knew what I did anyway.

                                          She emails me. No subject line: "DID YOU TELL HER WHAT I SAID"

                                          I quoted her instructions to reach back out to the EA. Said I did.

                                          Department head called up my boss and screamed at him. I mean literally, shrill screams. My boss had to tell her how inappropriate that was. She emails me back and we start a long email chain, tries for some reason to make me admit I had concerns about the EA thing, too. I denied I did. So now I have to get it ready for promotion "properly" whatever the fuck that means, and get my work cleared with the department head. She's doing this to be able to find fault with it and trump up incompetence charges against me.

                                          I thought about this a long time. Our HR consultant headhunted for this woman, so her agency gets paid out by staffing the department head. That's why HR is so keen on supporting her. And the President is in Chapter 11 on fucks to give. If they come at me for gross incompetence, that story would be backed by my department head, HR, and the President. I'd have a huge uphill legal battle just to get unemployment. They are indeed stupid enough to fight me on it, and I can't pay for a lawyer.

                                          So, I called the EA up and said I'm thinking about resigning, and just wanted to talk to her boss one last time. Not as an ultimatum or anything close to that. Just to explain the spot I appear to be in. To be able to say I gave it a shot.

                                          She reached out to him. His response to the EA: "Is this an HR issue? Because if it is, perhaps it would be best if this were first addressed to HR."

                                          EA and I had a long conversation. A lot of people have been pissed off by this woman. EA said hang in there by Tuesday, when the President gets back from vacation. (Must be nice, I'm working 56 hrs a week right now.) EA is going to try to get other leadership on board for a 90-day review of the department head's performance. She said this kind of thing has happened a couple of times in the past. It's very slow going within the department at first, but when others are affected, things move quickly. So just sit tight, wait until Tuesday. But meanwhile I have to prepare myself for the department head's next move when I "share my work." I have a plan for that but it's so ass-bananas and emotionally draining I don't even want to get into it. This ridiculous post is long enough. So I'll set myself up for failure and wait for Tuesday.

                                          Then again, Maryland officially opens back up on Friday so the decision could be made for me by then anyway.

                                          Holy hell. What a mess.

                                          Please love yourself.

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