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  • 89th8 89th

    And yeah, don't like this idea at all. Heck, on Saturday mornings I take my kids to the donut store. There is a kiosk to order from and 100 times out of 100 I take the kids up to the counter to order from the cashier. The kids need to learn how to interact and, honestly, it's cute watching them pick out their donuts.

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    @89th said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

    And yeah, don't like this idea at all. Heck, on Saturday mornings I take my kids to the donut store. There is a kiosk to order from and 100 times out of 100 I take the kids up to the counter to order from the cashier. The kids need to learn how to interact and, honestly, it's cute watching them pick out their donuts.

    These are the days. I look back on those Saturday mornings going to karate, archery, the movies etc. with such pleasure. Then suddenly...'Dad I need the car...'

    I was only joking

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      Yeah I can appreciate I'm in the good old days while I'm in them. That being said, grass is often greener... the fight to get a coat or pair of shoes on will give me gray (sorry, grey) hair. And the fact that I am unable to have reliable time between 7-11pm or 4-6am to attempt a workout, is hard because I know I'm getting out of shape. And general lack of sleep isn't healthy either, I feel it each morning. That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.

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        It's too bad political tribalism has made social interactions with random people so precarious these days. And as much as I'd like to say "both sides are equal" in that regard, it's obvious which side has more bloodthirsty good vs evil judgmentalism.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Yeah I can appreciate I'm in the good old days while I'm in them. That being said, grass is often greener... the fight to get a coat or pair of shoes on will give me gray (sorry, grey) hair. And the fact that I am unable to have reliable time between 7-11pm or 4-6am to attempt a workout, is hard because I know I'm getting out of shape. And general lack of sleep isn't healthy either, I feel it each morning. That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.

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          @89th said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

          That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.

          They get older, they don't grow up. At least, that's been my experience so far. Some people who shall remain nameless have very unkindly said something similar about the oldest member of the family.

          I was only joking

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            Maturity is the process of internalizing your cultural programming to the point that you believe it’s God’s truth.

            Education is extremely important.

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              You must hang out in very different places than I do. Or maybe you’re mistaking twitter for real life.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                You must hang out in very different places than I do. Or maybe you’re mistaking twitter for real life.

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                @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                You must hang out in very different places than I do.

                Church?

                I was only joking

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  You must hang out in very different places than I do. Or maybe you’re mistaking twitter for real life.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                  You must hang out in very different places than I do. Or maybe you’re mistaking twitter for real life.

                  I'm not sure what you're responding to, but you can feel free to flesh this out.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Around here random social interactions aren’t remotely precarious unless you wander into the south Bronx.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Around here random social interactions aren’t remotely precarious unless you wander into the south Bronx.

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                      @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                      Around here random social interactions aren’t remotely precarious unless you wander into the south Bronx.

                      If it will help to interpret my point charitably, you might concede the political polarization of our culture and the huge numbers of people who will full stop not share space with those who are on the opposite side of the issues they find to be of extreme moral or existential importance.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

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                          @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                          I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                          The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                            I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                            The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

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                            @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                            @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                            I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                            The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                            Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                            I've had business meals where people started going off about politics. One guy I was meeting just before the 2016 election said Hillary was a communist, and I'm ashamed to say I LOL'd. I was definitely in the minority at that particular meeting as my boss is a Trump sympathiser, however he clearly saw the funny side. The other guy, not so much, but he'd already made me sit through grace before dinner, so I figured enough was enough.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                              The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                              Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                              I've had business meals where people started going off about politics. One guy I was meeting just before the 2016 election said Hillary was a communist, and I'm ashamed to say I LOL'd. I was definitely in the minority at that particular meeting as my boss is a Trump sympathiser, however he clearly saw the funny side. The other guy, not so much, but he'd already made me sit through grace before dinner, so I figured enough was enough.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                              Exactly. 555

                              If I understand that back and froth between @Horace and @jon-nyc , I think I agree with Jon a bit more.

                              I meet quite a few people I have not met before, and it is pretty easy to have a good conversation with them without moving into topics that would be a controversy.

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                                @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                                The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                                Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                                I've had business meals where people started going off about politics. One guy I was meeting just before the 2016 election said Hillary was a communist, and I'm ashamed to say I LOL'd. I was definitely in the minority at that particular meeting as my boss is a Trump sympathiser, however he clearly saw the funny side. The other guy, not so much, but he'd already made me sit through grace before dinner, so I figured enough was enough.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                                The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                                Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                                I've had business meals where people started going off about politics. One guy I was meeting just before the 2016 election said Hillary was a communist, and I'm ashamed to say I LOL'd. I was definitely in the minority at that particular meeting as my boss is a Trump sympathiser, however he clearly saw the funny side. The other guy, not so much, but he'd already made me sit through grace before dinner, so I figured enough was enough.

                                It's not me that ever brings it up.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                  Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                                  Exactly. 555

                                  If I understand that back and froth between @Horace and @jon-nyc , I think I agree with Jon a bit more.

                                  I meet quite a few people I have not met before, and it is pretty easy to have a good conversation with them without moving into topics that would be a controversy.

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                  If I understand that back and froth between @Horace and @jon-nyc ,

                                  The ol' "back and froth" between me and jon-nyc. That's what she said.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                    @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                    I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                                    The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

                                    Didn't anybody ever tell you not to talk about religion and politics at parties?

                                    I've had business meals where people started going off about politics. One guy I was meeting just before the 2016 election said Hillary was a communist, and I'm ashamed to say I LOL'd. I was definitely in the minority at that particular meeting as my boss is a Trump sympathiser, however he clearly saw the funny side. The other guy, not so much, but he'd already made me sit through grace before dinner, so I figured enough was enough.

                                    It's not me that ever brings it up.

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                                    @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                    It's not me that ever brings it up.

                                    Yeah, I know there are plenty of knobheads out there. I generally find that self-deprecating jokes are a good way to diffuse the tension.

                                    And for any Trump supporters out there, self-deprecating is a fancy way of saying laughing at yourself.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                      I think in the real world the numbers are small and even then your typical social interaction wouldn’t reveal enough to trigger any negative reaction.

                                      The checkout line or any customer/vendor interaction is as small as one wants to make it. I'm more talking about situations a step up from that. Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions. I guess you can claim that such interactions aren't precarious as they edge into politics or social issues, I mean you can write that if you want.

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                                      @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                      Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions.

                                      Thats not what came to mind when I read ‘social interactions with random people’, especially in a thread about cashiers disappearing.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                        Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions.

                                        Thats not what came to mind when I read ‘social interactions with random people’, especially in a thread about cashiers disappearing.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                        @Horace said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                        Dinners or parties or walking groups or workplace or family interactions.

                                        Thats not what came to mind when I read ‘social interactions with random people’, especially in a thread about cashiers disappearing.

                                        I agree that one can navigate waiters at restaurants without getting into a heated debate about global warming.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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