Fetterman's growing on me

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I’m becoming more and more convinced that Fetterman died in the hospital when he was taken in for depression last year, and they’re paying my buddy Rob to take over as John. The money is probably good enough to have him tow the line on some stuff, but he’s slowly shifting his positions…

Here's one for George or Bach (or maybe one of George's daughters), but after a stroke such as Fetterman's, I know some personality things can happen. But can this much of a political change occur? This guy is smart enough to read the political landscape pretty well right now.

Stroke? Forget the stroke. He’s been changed since he went to Walter Reed for depression. Smarter, able to speak coherently, personality, everything.

[George K]

No-show.

[Jolly]

He's positioning himself...

[Mik]

Sure looks like it.

[jon-nyc]

Wouldn’t surprise me if he was denied a prime speaking spot and would rather not show up than be just another senator.

[Jolly]

Could be. What does that say about the current state of the party?

[jon-nyc]

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

[LuFins Dad]

I think the Israel thing might be a real sticking point for him.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

Of course they're not!
He's here at home with us you fiend!

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

Doubt it. Aqua seems too attached...

[Mik]

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.

[Jolly]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.

Beg to differ.

I think many American have a shared vision of equality. They don't have a shared version of equity.

Secondly, haven't seen many anti-BLM Americans rioting in the streets or chasing black students off of college campuses.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy.

I think the latter is the impetus, but whenever you take it out on Jewish citizens, not on policymakers, well that's obviously crossing into the former.

EDIT
I also don't think one bucket fits all here.

[Mik]

I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.

Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.

Yeah, fully agree.

Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.

Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.

We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.

Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.

[Mik]

@Aqua-Letifer yeah, it was intentional.

[Aqua Letifer]

Solid. Props.

[George K]