Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud
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Remember king Ralph?
wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 19:26 last edited by@bachophile Yes! A double treat, with John Goodman and Peter O'Toole!
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Eons ago I redd a novel by Fletcher Knebel called (I think) Dark Horse. The premise: through some bizarre circumstance all those in the line of succession are killed, and the job goes (somehow, I don't remember how) to the New Jersey Commissioner of Highways. The rest of the book is about how this guy copes. It was pretty good actually.
I'd like to read it again, but I think it's out of print.
wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 19:39 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Eons ago I redd a novel by Fletcher Knebel called (I think) Dark Horse. The premise: through some bizarre circumstance all those in the line of succession are killed, and the job goes (somehow, I don't remember how) to the New Jersey Commissioner of Highways. The rest of the book is about how this guy copes. It was pretty good actually.
I'd like to read it again, but I think it's out of print.
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Horse-Fletcher-Knebel/dp/0385067046/ref=sr_1_5
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wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 19:47 last edited by
@bachophile said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Very many thanks, Bach!
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@Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 20:55 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
@Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
Thank God we're not a democracy.
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@Catseye3 said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
@Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
Thank God we're not a democracy.
wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 23:01 last edited by George K@Jolly said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
@Catseye3 said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
@Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
Thank God we're not a democracy.
(Is the date for election set in the Constitution?)
Andy McCarthy:
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wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 23:06 last edited by
put me in the "down with that sort of thing" column regarding that dumb tweet.
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Biden isn't a socialist. I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 01:22 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Biden isn't a socialist. I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.
Well said.
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I think the Senate could go either way even with a Trump loss. But I haven't been paying too much attention.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 01:27 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
I think the Senate could go either way even with a Trump loss. But I haven't been paying too much attention.
Back in early February with Bernie leading, that was the best case scenario. Trump was going to win easily (until COVID hit), and Bernie would've helped the GOP as Bernie's name would've helped mute the left side of the ballot. Of course, all of that changed.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
@Larry said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Nor do I believe the polls that say he's ahead.
Trumps internal polling is almost certainly abysmal, hence this tweet.
Nah, I think it's a pre-emptive strike.
There are problems with mail-in ballots and we all know it. They are extremely easy to manipulate and ballot harvest. They also lend themselves to an October Surprise, if it's done well, especially with a Biden-friendly media.
As for poll numbers...I think Trump is down about five, but it's not even Labor Day. And the more Biden has to campaign, the more his senility is expressed.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 01:31 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
There are problems with mail-in ballots and we all know it. They are extremely easy to manipulate and ballot harvest.
Along these lines, how would mail-in ballots even work?
For example, when we traditionally vote at a polling station, at least for me, I'd show ID, they would find my name on the registered voter list, and I would vote. Then the ballots all go somewhere and I hope/trust they are counted accurately.
Whereas for mail-in ballots, would ballots be sent out to only registered voters? How would the folks counting the ballots even know the ballot they received was filled out by the person who's name is on the ballot? Heck, how would the folks counting the ballots know if someone made 1,000 copies of their ballot and sent them all in?
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 01:54 last edited by jon-nyc
Here they send an official interior envelope with your voter info on it with the ballot.
So you fill out the ballot, put it in the marked envelope, sign it and seal it, then put that in the mailing envelope.
And you sign the ballot too. Someone matches the signature with the one on file from your registration. It’s not that different than voting in person.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:02 last edited by
Anyone who thinks the election will be delayed I will give 100 to 1 odds on. Unlimited money.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:05 last edited by
I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.
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I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:13 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.
I'd be willing to be my own money on that.
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Anyone who thinks the election will be delayed I will give 100 to 1 odds on. Unlimited money.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:15 last edited by@Loki said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Anyone who thinks the election will be delayed I will give 100 to 1 odds on. Unlimited money.
All this means is that his internal polling is abysmal.
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I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:16 last edited by Loki@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.
More likely he will blame it on Covid. I’ll bet you on that as well. 5 to 1 odds. Private message me with the amount.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:17 last edited by
As a thought experiment, imagine what a Trump concession speech would sound like.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:19 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
As a thought experiment, imagine what a Trump concession speech would sound like.
Trick question. Trump will lose but he will be too much of a sore loser to give any "concession speech."
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:21 last edited by
The fact that Trump was elected is so much more significant than that he loses. Don’t ever forget that chortlers.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:21 last edited by
I’m not as confident that he’ll lose. But I find the polling and his mood encouraging. But it’s early and, fool me once...
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I’m not as confident that he’ll lose. But I find the polling and his mood encouraging. But it’s early and, fool me once...
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
But it’s early and, fool me once...
