Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud

[Horace]

put me in the "down with that sort of thing" column regarding that dumb tweet.

[89th]

@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

Biden isn't a socialist. I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.

Well said.

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@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

@Klaus

I think the Senate could go either way even with a Trump loss. But I haven't been paying too much attention.

Back in early February with Bernie leading, that was the best case scenario. Trump was going to win easily (until COVID hit), and Bernie would've helped the GOP as Bernie's name would've helped mute the left side of the ballot. Of course, all of that changed.

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@Jolly said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

There are problems with mail-in ballots and we all know it. They are extremely easy to manipulate and ballot harvest.

Along these lines, how would mail-in ballots even work?

For example, when we traditionally vote at a polling station, at least for me, I'd show ID, they would find my name on the registered voter list, and I would vote. Then the ballots all go somewhere and I hope/trust they are counted accurately.

Whereas for mail-in ballots, would ballots be sent out to only registered voters? How would the folks counting the ballots even know the ballot they received was filled out by the person who's name is on the ballot? Heck, how would the folks counting the ballots know if someone made 1,000 copies of their ballot and sent them all in?

[jon-nyc]

Here they send an official interior envelope with your voter info on it with the ballot.

So you fill out the ballot, put it in the marked envelope, sign it and seal it, then put that in the mailing envelope.

And you sign the ballot too. Someone matches the signature with the one on file from your registration. It’s not that different than voting in person.

[Loki]

Anyone who thinks the election will be delayed I will give 100 to 1 odds on. Unlimited money.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.

I'd be willing to be my own money on that.

[jon-nyc]

@Loki said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

Anyone who thinks the election will be delayed I will give 100 to 1 odds on. Unlimited money.

All this means is that his internal polling is abysmal.

[Loki]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

I'd be willing to bet with other people's money that if Trump loses he will complain about voter fraud, and will not bow out gracefully, but will whine like a spoilt little baby.

More likely he will blame it on Covid. I’ll bet you on that as well. 5 to 1 odds. Private message me with the amount.

[jon-nyc]

As a thought experiment, imagine what a Trump concession speech would sound like.

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

As a thought experiment, imagine what a Trump concession speech would sound like.

Trick question. Trump will lose but he will be too much of a sore loser to give any "concession speech."

[Loki]

The fact that Trump was elected is so much more significant than that he loses. Don’t ever forget that chortlers.

[jon-nyc]

I’m not as confident that he’ll lose. But I find the polling and his mood encouraging. But it’s early and, fool me once...

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@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

But it’s early and, fool me once...

[taiwan_girl]

I read somewhere that President Trump used a mail in ballot this past spring to vote in Florida, (and also previous while he was NY resident). He must not think it is too bad.

[Loki]

Lightning striking twice in the same spot would be unexplainable. Covid made it impossible to make America great again. The premise failed.

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@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

Here they send an official interior envelope with your voter info on it with the ballot.

So you fill out the ballot, put it in the marked envelope, sign it and seal it, then put that in the mailing envelope.

And you sign the ballot too. Someone matches the signature with the one on file from your registration. It’s not that different than voting in person.

Interesting, good to know. A couple follow-ons:

• I wonder what the deadline will be to finalize the ballots (names, referendums, etc)
• I wonder what the deadline will be to MAIL your ballot
• Could a person vote in-person, too? How would the system know?
• Won't all of the hard copy ballot counting (and signature analysis?) take for-e-ver?
• If successful, this could be the way all elections are done in the future.

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@taiwan_girl said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

I read somewhere that President Trump used a mail in ballot this past spring to vote in Florida, (and also previous while he was NY resident). He must not think it is too bad.

I think that's absentee where you have to actively request a ballot be sent to you, and thus are removed from on-site polling voter lists. Whereas I presume mail-in ballots would be sent in bulk to all registered voters, whether they asked for one or not?

[jon-nyc]

89th - re voting twice I assume they guard against that in approximately the same way. My vote, or rather the fact that I voted, gets recorded at the polling station.

The ‘internal envelope’ I mentioned has my info in machine readable format. I would assume it gets read when it is opened and processed. It certainly could be.