More strange and/or foul reactions
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 15:27 last edited by
I suppose this belongs in this thread:
Vladimir Putin asks both sides in the Gaza War to minimise or eliminate civilian casualties
In other words, to not fight like Russia does in Ukraine.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 16:04 last edited by
@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
The journalist could've gone with the middle school-level, yet effective, approach of saying "If you don't say anything I will take your silence that you condone Hamas' actions."
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
The journalist could've gone with the middle school-level, yet effective, approach of saying "If you don't say anything I will take your silence that you condone Hamas' actions."
wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 16:11 last edited by@89th said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
The journalist could've gone with the middle school-level, yet effective, approach of saying "If you don't say anything I will take your silence that you condone Hamas' actions."
And, as I commented elsewhere - "I thought silence was violence?"
Where is your St. George Floyd now, infidel?
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 16:56 last edited by
I think obviously the congressperson likes babies' heads chopped off.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 17:00 last edited by
@Copper said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
I think obviously the congressperson likes babies' heads chopped off.
That tracks with their abortion stance.
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If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 18:18 last edited by@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 18:21 last edited by
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 18:26 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
There are reports that some of the Hamas fighters were speaking Persian.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 19:04 last edited by
@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Then.
Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-hamas-deaths-killings.html
I'm surprised they left the word "massacre" in there. Perhaps "de-lifing" would sound less judgy.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 19:09 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 19:14 last edited by
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 19:32 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
[Ax mode] I don't think we've seen any definitive proof of that, have we? Just because a Hamas spokesman said Iran helped, is not a fact or quantifiable statistic. [Ax mode/]
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 19:46 last edited by Renauda 10 Dec 2023, 01:47@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
This is where it gets murky. Any uniformed Iranian military personnel found alive in the war zone as a belligerent would be considered but not necessarily afforded or treated as a prisoner of war. Any non uniformed Iranian national found with or assisting Hamas para military terrorists would be considered a terrorist and dealt with as practicable to the situation. If the Israelis are in a bad mood that day they may treat the Iranian as a mercenary terrorist and end it right there on the spot. In the words of the late Russell Buffalino, “it’s what it is”.
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 20:40 last edited by George K 10 Nov 2023, 20:43
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wrote on 11 Oct 2023, 23:47 last edited by Renauda 10 Dec 2023, 01:47
Putin finally came round to realise his opinion is of no consequence in this war. He forgets though that in his world view small countries have no right to exist, hence the empty rhetoric about historic land claims for the descendants of nomadic Bedouin tribes.
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wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 00:02 last edited by
He’s living in the 80’s. Part of that means supporting Iran.
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wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 00:09 last edited by
Actually he’s living in the 19th century. The ‘80’s rhetoric is just a facade.
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wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 00:57 last edited by
@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
"Sorry you were offended."
Yes, what a stupid "apology!"
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wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 01:01 last edited by
(I have used the "no English" one before!)
