More strange and/or foul reactions
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@Jolly said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Criminals vs. War Crimes?
My ass. Look at the planning, the groups who coordinated the attack, the multi-faceted nature of the attack, the financing, etc., etc.
It's a fucking war crime.
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Then.
Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-hamas-deaths-killings.html
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
Elbows up!
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
The journalist could've gone with the middle school-level, yet effective, approach of saying "If you don't say anything I will take your silence that you condone Hamas' actions."
@89th said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
The journalist could've gone with the middle school-level, yet effective, approach of saying "If you don't say anything I will take your silence that you condone Hamas' actions."
And, as I commented elsewhere - "I thought silence was violence?"
Where is your St. George Floyd now, infidel?
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If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
Please love yourself.
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
There are reports that some of the Hamas fighters were speaking Persian.
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Then.
Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-hamas-deaths-killings.html
I'm surprised they left the word "massacre" in there. Perhaps "de-lifing" would sound less judgy.
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
[Ax mode] I don't think we've seen any definitive proof of that, have we? Just because a Hamas spokesman said Iran helped, is not a fact or quantifiable statistic. [Ax mode/]
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@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
If it was Hamas, and they are the leaders in the Palestinian government, are they terrorists or are they an army? There’s a distinction there.
Big distinction. Sovereign states maintain armies. Hamas is not an army but rather a para military terrorist organisation that has control over the mainly Muslim and a few Christian inhabitants of the small ethnic enclave of Israel called Gaza. Gaza is no more a sovereign state than Kwazulu in South Africa or Wounded Knee Indian Reservation in the USA.
But we already know the Iranian government had a significant part to play in this.
This is where it gets murky. Any uniformed Iranian military personnel found alive in the war zone as a belligerent would be considered but not necessarily afforded or treated as a prisoner of war. Any non uniformed Iranian national found with or assisting Hamas para military terrorists would be considered a terrorist and dealt with as practicable to the situation. If the Israelis are in a bad mood that day they may treat the Iranian as a mercenary terrorist and end it right there on the spot. In the words of the late Russell Buffalino, “it’s what it is”.
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Putin finally came round to realise his opinion is of no consequence in this war. He forgets though that in his world view small countries have no right to exist, hence the empty rhetoric about historic land claims for the descendants of nomadic Bedouin tribes.
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He’s living in the 80’s. Part of that means supporting Iran.
