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It ain't just what you're making...

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
    #15

    Those girls on Mission Beach ain't going to look at you back if you aren't making $120K+

    https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/baton-rouge-la/san-diego-ca/66560

    A salary of $66,560 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana should increase to $116,426 in San Diego, California

    That's not including taxes. On that $100K he makes in San Diego, the guy's going to pay $8500 in income tax vs $2400 for Baton Rouge.

    Sales tax rate in Baton Rouge is 9.25% vs 8% in San Diego but goods typically cost 12% more in San Diego than Baton Rouge

    https://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Louisiana-Baton-Rouge

    Food & Grocery - Baton Rouge has grocery prices that are 0% higher than the national average.
    Food & Grocery - San Diego has grocery prices that are 12% higher than the national average.

    So on a $100 in groceries in Baton Rouge, you will add on $9.25 for tax or a total of $109.25. The same bag of groceries in San Diego will cost $112 + $8.96 tax for a total of $120.96.

    Medical care looks to be much more expensive in California as well, so while an abortion may be available in California, it may not be financially feasible...

    The point is that there can be many many wonderful reasons for a lad to choose to move to San Diego. The salary/money difference isn't one of them

    Now, as to whether or not the women are better looking... I can't say.

    The Brad

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #16

      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

      Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

      I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #17

        Likely below whether Chicago hot dogs are readily available.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

          Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

          I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

          AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
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          #18

          @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

          I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

          1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

          2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

          3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

            I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

            1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

            2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

            3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #19

            @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

            I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

            1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

            2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

            3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

            In the original post: Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

            From the Cambridge Dictionary:

            **lad
            noun [ C ]
            US /læd/ UK /læd/

            a boy or young man:**

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #20

              Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

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              Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Away
                AxtremusA Away
                Axtremus
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                #21

                From your opening post:

                So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                Your own words: “young person”

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

                  alt text

                  Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

                  AxtremusA Away
                  AxtremusA Away
                  Axtremus
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                  @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...
                  …
                  Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

                  You confuse anecdotes with statistics.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    From your opening post:

                    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                    Your own words: “young person”

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #23

                    @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                    From your opening post:

                    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                    Your own words: “young person”

                    Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                      #24

                      Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                      • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                      • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                      Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                        • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                        • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                        Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #25

                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                        • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)

                        And there are roughly 800,000 people living in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area vs 3,900,000 in San Diego Metro. The number of jobs per resident is in weighted towards Baton Rouge.

                        The Brad

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                          From your opening post:

                          So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                          Your own words: “young person”

                          Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #26

                          @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                          From your opening post:

                          So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                          Your own words: “young person”

                          Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                          Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            From your opening post:

                            So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                            Your own words: “young person”

                            Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                            Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                            JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
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                            #27

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            From your opening post:

                            So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                            Your own words: “young person”

                            Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                            Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                            Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              From your opening post:

                              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                              Your own words: “young person”

                              Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                              Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                              Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #28

                              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              From your opening post:

                              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                              Your own words: “young person”

                              Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                              Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                              Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                              It would be a very bad idea to keep the act up in that environment.

                              And yeah, it's all dunking. Which, sure, people are people, we've been doing that to and with each other for decades now. But when it's all you do? Really?

                              I don't see the point in taking a conversation in good faith when the other person does anything but.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Jolly
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                                #29

                                At this point, I bow to superior wisdom.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego

                                  Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.

                                  Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!

                                  Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

                                  So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

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                                  taiwan_girl
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                                  @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                  So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                                  Agree. Sometimes recent graduates just look at salary, without looking at all the other things such as how far their money will go.

                                  A lot of government agencies, like MOFA, if you are posted internationally, will give you a increase if you are going to higher priced city.

                                  I think it was Facebook(?) when working remote was a things, talked about scaling salary based on where you worked. If you were paying someone USD$200K to work at HQ in Silcon Valley, and then they were working remote in Dickinson ND, do they really need USD$200K?

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    #31

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                    Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                    New York
                                    Chicago
                                    Dallas
                                    Los Angeles
                                    Atlanta
                                    Boston
                                    San Francisco
                                    Austin, Texas
                                    Washington D.C.
                                    Houston
                                    Seattle
                                    Denver
                                    Philadelphia
                                    San Diego
                                    Miami

                                    NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                      Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                      New York
                                      Chicago
                                      Dallas
                                      Los Angeles
                                      Atlanta
                                      Boston
                                      San Francisco
                                      Austin, Texas
                                      Washington D.C.
                                      Houston
                                      Seattle
                                      Denver
                                      Philadelphia
                                      San Diego
                                      Miami

                                      NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                      Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                      New York
                                      Chicago
                                      Dallas
                                      Los Angeles
                                      Atlanta
                                      Boston
                                      San Francisco
                                      Austin, Texas
                                      Washington D.C.
                                      Houston
                                      Seattle
                                      Denver
                                      Philadelphia
                                      San Diego
                                      Miami

                                      NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                                      Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

                                      The Brad

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                                        Horace
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                                        Ax you should compile these sorts of counter intuitive statistics into a freakonomics style book.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                          Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                          New York
                                          Chicago
                                          Dallas
                                          Los Angeles
                                          Atlanta
                                          Boston
                                          San Francisco
                                          Austin, Texas
                                          Washington D.C.
                                          Houston
                                          Seattle
                                          Denver
                                          Philadelphia
                                          San Diego
                                          Miami

                                          NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                                          Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          Axtremus
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                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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