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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

    Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

    I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

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    @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

    I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

    1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

    2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

    3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

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      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

      I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

      1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

      2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

      3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

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      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

      I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

      1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

      2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

      3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

      In the original post: Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

      From the Cambridge Dictionary:

      **lad
      noun [ C ]
      US /læd/ UK /læd/

      a boy or young man:**

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

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        Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Axtremus
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          #21

          From your opening post:

          So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

          Your own words: “young person”

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

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            Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

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            Axtremus
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            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

            Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...
            …
            Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

            You confuse anecdotes with statistics.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              From your opening post:

              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

              Your own words: “young person”

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              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

              From your opening post:

              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

              Your own words: “young person”

              Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #24

                Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                  • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                  • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                  Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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                  @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                  • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)

                  And there are roughly 800,000 people living in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area vs 3,900,000 in San Diego Metro. The number of jobs per resident is in weighted towards Baton Rouge.

                  The Brad

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                    From your opening post:

                    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                    Your own words: “young person”

                    Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

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                    @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                    @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                    From your opening post:

                    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                    Your own words: “young person”

                    Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                    Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      From your opening post:

                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                      Your own words: “young person”

                      Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                      Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      From your opening post:

                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                      Your own words: “young person”

                      Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                      Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                      Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        From your opening post:

                        So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                        Your own words: “young person”

                        Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                        Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                        Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

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                        @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        From your opening post:

                        So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                        Your own words: “young person”

                        Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                        Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                        Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                        It would be a very bad idea to keep the act up in that environment.

                        And yeah, it's all dunking. Which, sure, people are people, we've been doing that to and with each other for decades now. But when it's all you do? Really?

                        I don't see the point in taking a conversation in good faith when the other person does anything but.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Jolly
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                          At this point, I bow to superior wisdom.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego

                            Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.

                            Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!

                            Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

                            So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

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                            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                            Agree. Sometimes recent graduates just look at salary, without looking at all the other things such as how far their money will go.

                            A lot of government agencies, like MOFA, if you are posted internationally, will give you a increase if you are going to higher priced city.

                            I think it was Facebook(?) when working remote was a things, talked about scaling salary based on where you worked. If you were paying someone USD$200K to work at HQ in Silcon Valley, and then they were working remote in Dickinson ND, do they really need USD$200K?

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                              https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                              Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                              New York
                              Chicago
                              Dallas
                              Los Angeles
                              Atlanta
                              Boston
                              San Francisco
                              Austin, Texas
                              Washington D.C.
                              Houston
                              Seattle
                              Denver
                              Philadelphia
                              San Diego
                              Miami

                              NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

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                                https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                New York
                                Chicago
                                Dallas
                                Los Angeles
                                Atlanta
                                Boston
                                San Francisco
                                Austin, Texas
                                Washington D.C.
                                Houston
                                Seattle
                                Denver
                                Philadelphia
                                San Diego
                                Miami

                                NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                New York
                                Chicago
                                Dallas
                                Los Angeles
                                Atlanta
                                Boston
                                San Francisco
                                Austin, Texas
                                Washington D.C.
                                Houston
                                Seattle
                                Denver
                                Philadelphia
                                San Diego
                                Miami

                                NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                                Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

                                The Brad

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                                  Ax you should compile these sorts of counter intuitive statistics into a freakonomics style book.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                                    Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                                    New York
                                    Chicago
                                    Dallas
                                    Los Angeles
                                    Atlanta
                                    Boston
                                    San Francisco
                                    Austin, Texas
                                    Washington D.C.
                                    Houston
                                    Seattle
                                    Denver
                                    Philadelphia
                                    San Diego
                                    Miami

                                    NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                                    Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @LuFins-Dad

                                    Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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                                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                      Excellent. The book is taking shape.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                        @LuFins-Dad

                                        Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                        Excellent. The book is taking shape.

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                                        @Horace said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                        @LuFins-Dad

                                        Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                        Excellent. The book is taking shape.

                                        It'll be a best-seller because Ax is a serious and objective thinker and everyone's going to be beyond impressed by that.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          >
                                          25 U.S. Cities with the Most College Students
                                          
                                          City	Number of Colleges	Total Enrollment	City Population
                                          New York, NY	82	290,216	19,354,922
                                          Chicago, IL	73	219,981	8,675,982
                                          Slt Lk City,UT	18	200,797	1,098,400
                                          Los Angeles, CA	54	183,219	12,815,475
                                          Houston, TX	64	175,189	5,446,468
                                          Tempe, AZ	14	171,860	185,038
                                          San Diego, CA	35	160,576	3,210,314
                                          Minneapolis, MN	14	153,597	2,926,757
                                          Boston, MA	30	150,338	4,637,537
                                          Phoenix, AZ	34	149,726	4,081,849
                                          Phila, PA	37	149,664	5,637,884
                                          Atlanta, GA	37	133,648	5,228,750
                                          Indian, IN	29	131,644	1,564,699
                                          Miami, FL	44	131,272	6,381,966
                                          Orlando, FL	16	130,254	1,776,841
                                          San Antonio, TX	46	124,702	2,002,530
                                          Manchester, NH	8	110,024	160,742
                                          Austin, TX	27	105,525	1,638,716
                                          Sacramento, CA	23	105,249	1,854,698
                                          Columbus, OH	24	104,783	1,528,314
                                          Baltimore, MD	24	100,393	2,170,504
                                          Saint Louis, MO	23	99,607	2,078,283
                                          Washington, DC	24	98,399	5,289,420
                                          Denver, CO	26	92,189	2,787,266
                                          San Fran, CA	21	90,493	3,603,761
                                          
                                          
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