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It ain't just what you're making...

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego

    Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.

    Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!

    Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

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    @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

    Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego

    Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.

    Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!

    Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

    Specifically comparing San Diego and Baton Rouge, the “old fart” seems to have neglected the natural disasters.

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      True. Southern Cal had a hurricane this year. Baton Rouge didn't.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          True. Southern Cal had a hurricane this year. Baton Rouge didn't.

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          @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

          True. Southern Cal had a hurricane this year. Baton Rouge didn't.

          It's always a good time when "Ax" thinks he can speak for "recent grads."

          Please love yourself.

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            A storm surge in San Diego ruined a beautiful 67 Mustang I used to own.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              True. Southern Cal had a hurricane this year. Baton Rouge didn't.

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              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

              True. Southern Cal had a hurricane this year. Baton Rouge didn't.

              The comparison is San Diego specifically, not Southern California in general.

              https://www.nola.com/news/environment/most-disaster-prone-areas-see-where-louisiana-lands/article_a0ac172a-c98b-11ed-a4ce-dba949e041b3.html

              1. East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana (tie): Between January 2013 and January 2023, East Baton Rouge Parish experienced 10 hurricanes, three coastal storms, two floods, and two severe ice storms (17 disaster declarations in total).
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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

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                @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

                You're right, they'd most certainly want to move to a more liberal city like Portland.

                Please love yourself.

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                  But I think Jolly's point is that higher salary doesn't guarantee a better life. You have to factor in many things.

                  There were a lot of good looking women around Morgan City, but on Mission Beach? Dayum, son... never seen anything like it.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • MikM Mik

                    But I think Jolly's point is that higher salary doesn't guarantee a better life. You have to factor in many things.

                    There were a lot of good looking women around Morgan City, but on Mission Beach? Dayum, son... never seen anything like it.

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                    @Mik said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                    … higher salary doesn't guarantee a better life. You have to factor in many things.

                    1. Nothing new or controversial about that view point.
                    2. Just because a place offers higher salaries/wages does not mean it is lacking in other measures. (Or, just because a place offers lower salaries/wages also do not mean it “wins” in other measures.)
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                      Those girls on Mission Beach ain't going to look at you back if you aren't making $120K+

                      https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/baton-rouge-la/san-diego-ca/66560

                      A salary of $66,560 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana should increase to $116,426 in San Diego, California

                      That's not including taxes. On that $100K he makes in San Diego, the guy's going to pay $8500 in income tax vs $2400 for Baton Rouge.

                      Sales tax rate in Baton Rouge is 9.25% vs 8% in San Diego but goods typically cost 12% more in San Diego than Baton Rouge

                      https://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Louisiana-Baton-Rouge

                      Food & Grocery - Baton Rouge has grocery prices that are 0% higher than the national average.
                      Food & Grocery - San Diego has grocery prices that are 12% higher than the national average.

                      So on a $100 in groceries in Baton Rouge, you will add on $9.25 for tax or a total of $109.25. The same bag of groceries in San Diego will cost $112 + $8.96 tax for a total of $120.96.

                      Medical care looks to be much more expensive in California as well, so while an abortion may be available in California, it may not be financially feasible...

                      The point is that there can be many many wonderful reasons for a lad to choose to move to San Diego. The salary/money difference isn't one of them

                      Now, as to whether or not the women are better looking... I can't say.

                      The Brad

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

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                        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                        Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

                        I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Likely below whether Chicago hot dogs are readily available.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            Furthermore, also ain’t about how much money yuo make, is Louisiana’s abortion ban and attendant effects of women’s heath and reproductive care. Young people may place some weight on this “abortion ban” factor when deciding whether to “move across the country” when one of the locations under consideration is in Louisiana.

                            I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

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                            @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                            I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

                            1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

                            2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

                            3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

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                              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

                              1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

                              2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

                              3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

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                              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              I'm not sure abortion ranks high on the young man's quality of life considerations.

                              1. Your opening post says “young person,” not just “young man.”

                              2. A little research wouldn’t hurt. https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/abortion-election-how-youth-prioritized-and-voted-based-issues

                              3. You really believe that where young women choose to go would not affect where young men choose to go?

                              In the original post: Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

                              From the Cambridge Dictionary:

                              **lad
                              noun [ C ]
                              US /læd/ UK /læd/

                              a boy or young man:**

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

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                                Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  From your opening post:

                                  So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                                  Your own words: “young person”

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

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                                    Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

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                                    @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                    Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...
                                    …
                                    Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

                                    You confuse anecdotes with statistics.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      From your opening post:

                                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                                      Your own words: “young person”

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                                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                      From your opening post:

                                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                                      Your own words: “young person”

                                      Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                                        • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                                        • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                                        Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                                          • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
                                          • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

                                          Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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                                          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                          Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

                                          • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)

                                          And there are roughly 800,000 people living in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area vs 3,900,000 in San Diego Metro. The number of jobs per resident is in weighted towards Baton Rouge.

                                          The Brad

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