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    George K
    wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 12:48 last edited by
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    In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

    I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      18 Oct 2023, 12:48

      In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

      I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 12:56 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

      I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

      No doubt in my mind on either score, but the initial drone footage appears to be recycled and has been removed. I can certainly understand somebody seeing “drone footage missile strike hospital” and loading the wrong video, but again it provides fodder for those that don’t believe Israel.

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 13:20 last edited by
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        Nobody posted videos of massive pro-Israel rallies where they are calling for the mass murder of Palestinians that I am aware of. It kind of hurts the argument that your cause is the moral and righteous one.

        The Brad

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          18 Oct 2023, 12:56

          @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

          I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

          No doubt in my mind on either score, but the initial drone footage appears to be recycled and has been removed. I can certainly understand somebody seeing “drone footage missile strike hospital” and loading the wrong video, but again it provides fodder for those that don’t believe Israel.

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          George K
          wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 13:27 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          it provides fodder for those that don’t believe

          Brit Hume:

          "Do you think those who signed the letter about the Hunter Biden laptop would be willing to say the claim that Israel bombed that Gaza hospital has "all the earmarks" of Hamas propaganda?"

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 13:36 last edited by
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            More live footage. Different camera angle. There are two talking heads, the one on the left explains in English.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              bachophile
              wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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              Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                18 Oct 2023, 14:07

                Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 14:52 last edited by
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                @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

                Please don’t misunderstand me. I am absolutely convinced in Israel’s moral standing in this conflict as well as the overarching issues. I am just stating that there seem to have been errors in Israel’s initial response, which opens up room for doubt among those that naturally are inclined to believe the Palestinian groups over Israel. To them, Biden’s statement is just further evidence of the illicit corruption and vile partnership between Israel and the US.

                Seeing the reactions by so many of the Palestinians in the US as well as the other Islamic communities, and their absolute assurance that the US is not only complicit, but fully evil and to be reviled, I have to wonder why they are here.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 14:55 last edited by
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                  The fog of war. Nothing more.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    18 Oct 2023, 14:07

                    Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 15:01 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

                    As it should be for any POTUS. Biden is quite right in making that statement regardless how those cheering for Hamas take or twist it.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 15:03 last edited by
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                      Yep.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 16:15 last edited by
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                        https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/18/identifying-possible-crater-from-gaza-hospital-blast/

                        Independent fact checker believes they have identified impact site, and details of the crater doesn’t match what one would expect from IDF munitions…

                        I wonder if they can determine direction?

                        The Brad

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                          George K
                          wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 16:24 last edited by
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                          https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-tries-to-back-up-claims-it-didnt-attack-gaza-hospital-a8cc3405?mod=djemalertNEWS

                          The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast.

                          The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said.

                          “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.

                          I wonder if these "squad" members will retract their Xeets.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 18:28 last edited by
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                            image.jpeg

                            This photo is not at the hospital's location.

                            Funny that.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 19:00 last edited by
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                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                bachophile
                                wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:08 last edited by
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                                https://abcnews.go.com/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

                                never a dull moment

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:12 last edited by
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                                  You know the sailors on the ship were glad they finally got to shoot their weapons!

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:21 last edited by
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                                    SM2 missiles

                                    Mach 3

                                    From a few years ago

                                    Link to video

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:28 last edited by
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                                      OK - time to turn Yemen into glass as well.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        19 Oct 2023, 20:21

                                        SM2 missiles

                                        Mach 3

                                        From a few years ago

                                        Link to video

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 21:05 last edited by
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                                        @Copper said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        SM2 missiles

                                        Mach 3

                                        From a few years ago

                                        Link to video

                                        Poor fish.

                                        Awesome that they intercepted those - must have felt great.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 01:23 last edited by
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                                          On Thursday Oct. 19, 2023.
                                          Biden in a televised speech explaining why we need to support Israel and Ukraine.
                                          Plans to ask Congress to appropriate $100B to help Ukraine and Israel.

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