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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

    I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

    No doubt in my mind on either score, but the initial drone footage appears to be recycled and has been removed. I can certainly understand somebody seeing “drone footage missile strike hospital” and loading the wrong video, but again it provides fodder for those that don’t believe Israel.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    it provides fodder for those that don’t believe

    Brit Hume:

    "Do you think those who signed the letter about the Hunter Biden laptop would be willing to say the claim that Israel bombed that Gaza hospital has "all the earmarks" of Hamas propaganda?"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
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      More live footage. Different camera angle. There are two talking heads, the one on the left explains in English.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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          Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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          @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

          Please don’t misunderstand me. I am absolutely convinced in Israel’s moral standing in this conflict as well as the overarching issues. I am just stating that there seem to have been errors in Israel’s initial response, which opens up room for doubt among those that naturally are inclined to believe the Palestinian groups over Israel. To them, Biden’s statement is just further evidence of the illicit corruption and vile partnership between Israel and the US.

          Seeing the reactions by so many of the Palestinians in the US as well as the other Islamic communities, and their absolute assurance that the US is not only complicit, but fully evil and to be reviled, I have to wonder why they are here.

          The Brad

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            The fog of war. Nothing more.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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              @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

              As it should be for any POTUS. Biden is quite right in making that statement regardless how those cheering for Hamas take or twist it.

              Elbows up!

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                Yep.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/18/identifying-possible-crater-from-gaza-hospital-blast/

                  Independent fact checker believes they have identified impact site, and details of the crater doesn’t match what one would expect from IDF munitions…

                  I wonder if they can determine direction?

                  The Brad

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                    George K
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                    https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-tries-to-back-up-claims-it-didnt-attack-gaza-hospital-a8cc3405?mod=djemalertNEWS

                    The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast.

                    The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said.

                    “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.

                    I wonder if these "squad" members will retract their Xeets.

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
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                      image.jpeg

                      This photo is not at the hospital's location.

                      Funny that.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          https://abcnews.go.com/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

                          never a dull moment

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                            You know the sailors on the ship were glad they finally got to shoot their weapons!

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                              SM2 missiles

                              Mach 3

                              From a few years ago

                              Link to video

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                                George K
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                                OK - time to turn Yemen into glass as well.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  SM2 missiles

                                  Mach 3

                                  From a few years ago

                                  Link to video

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                                  @Copper said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  SM2 missiles

                                  Mach 3

                                  From a few years ago

                                  Link to video

                                  Poor fish.

                                  Awesome that they intercepted those - must have felt great.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    On Thursday Oct. 19, 2023.
                                    Biden in a televised speech explaining why we need to support Israel and Ukraine.
                                    Plans to ask Congress to appropriate $100B to help Ukraine and Israel.

                                    Link to video

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                                      Mik
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                                      #482

                                      It was a good speech. Not great, but presidential and appropriate to the situation.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        bachophile
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                                        Mercedes….Merkava

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                                          George K
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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