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  • MikM Mik

    Brings back bad memories of the Beirut barracks bombing.

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    @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    Brings back bad memories of the Beirut barracks bombing.

    At least in those days Reagan was able to move a couple mountains back and calm things down with the New Jersey parked offshore. Settled their hash in short order.

    Elbows up!

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      Um, he evacuated the Marines, IIRC.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Then he moved the mountains back..

        Elbows up!

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          IMG_1384.png

          Joe on the way in.

          Number one tracked I wonder why.

          Not AF1. Just the eyes all around to keep the banditos away.

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            Lots of evidence that the hospital event was not an IDF strike.

            No impact crater.
            Tass video shows building remarkably intact - other than shattered glass.

            IDF has released audio of the convo allegedly by jihadi forces talking about how it was one of theirs.

            The timing is...suspicious. Hamas releases statement that they're launching rockets into Israel, and the hit occurs 10 minutes later.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              #458

              Read the thread:

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                The Homer into the bushes meme works here....

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  NYT, paper of record.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    Lots of evidence that the hospital event was not an IDF strike.

                    No impact crater.
                    Tass video shows building remarkably intact - other than shattered glass.

                    IDF has released audio of the convo allegedly by jihadi forces talking about how it was one of theirs.

                    The timing is...suspicious. Hamas releases statement that they're launching rockets into Israel, and the hit occurs 10 minutes later.

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                    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    Lots of evidence that the hospital event was not an IDF strike.

                    No impact crater.
                    Tass video shows building remarkably intact - other than shattered glass.

                    IDF has released audio of the convo allegedly by jihadi forces talking about how it was one of theirs.

                    The timing is...suspicious. Hamas releases statement that they're launching rockets into Israel, and the hit occurs 10 minutes later.

                    Yes, but there are a few issues.

                    1. An Israeli SPOX almost immediately announced that the IDF had launched an attack on a hospital that was being used as a cover by Hamas. Now, it’s very possible that in the confusion of the moment Israeli officials were confused and went into CYA mode, but it doesn’t help the current situation.

                    2. The initial video posted by the IDF would appear to be from an event in 2021. The IDF has now removed that video.

                    Ultimately, I don’t believe the needle has been moved an iota in terms of public sentiment and support.

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

                      I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

                        I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

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                        @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

                        I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

                        No doubt in my mind on either score, but the initial drone footage appears to be recycled and has been removed. I can certainly understand somebody seeing “drone footage missile strike hospital” and loading the wrong video, but again it provides fodder for those that don’t believe Israel.

                        The Brad

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                          Nobody posted videos of massive pro-Israel rallies where they are calling for the mass murder of Palestinians that I am aware of. It kind of hurts the argument that your cause is the moral and righteous one.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            In the "lets walk through it" post, above, there's drone fottage.

                            I'm reading that it hit a parking lot. To say that the IDF targeted a parking lot is sketchy, unless, of course, they had intel that a high-value target was there.

                            No doubt in my mind on either score, but the initial drone footage appears to be recycled and has been removed. I can certainly understand somebody seeing “drone footage missile strike hospital” and loading the wrong video, but again it provides fodder for those that don’t believe Israel.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            it provides fodder for those that don’t believe

                            Brit Hume:

                            "Do you think those who signed the letter about the Hunter Biden laptop would be willing to say the claim that Israel bombed that Gaza hospital has "all the earmarks" of Hamas propaganda?"

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              More live footage. Different camera angle. There are two talking heads, the one on the left explains in English.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                                  @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

                                  Please don’t misunderstand me. I am absolutely convinced in Israel’s moral standing in this conflict as well as the overarching issues. I am just stating that there seem to have been errors in Israel’s initial response, which opens up room for doubt among those that naturally are inclined to believe the Palestinian groups over Israel. To them, Biden’s statement is just further evidence of the illicit corruption and vile partnership between Israel and the US.

                                  Seeing the reactions by so many of the Palestinians in the US as well as the other Islamic communities, and their absolute assurance that the US is not only complicit, but fully evil and to be reviled, I have to wonder why they are here.

                                  The Brad

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                                    The fog of war. Nothing more.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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                                      @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

                                      As it should be for any POTUS. Biden is quite right in making that statement regardless how those cheering for Hamas take or twist it.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Yep.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/18/identifying-possible-crater-from-gaza-hospital-blast/

                                          Independent fact checker believes they have identified impact site, and details of the crater doesn’t match what one would expect from IDF munitions…

                                          I wonder if they can determine direction?

                                          The Brad

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