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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1357

    I like that guy.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #1358

      Qatar has the interesting distinction of having been bombed by both Iran and lsrael in the span of 6 months.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #1359

        From CBS:

        The Qatari government condemned what it called a "cowardly Israeli attack that targeted residential compounds housing several members of Hamas' political bureau in the Qatari capital, Doha."

        The head of the snake,

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #1360

          Unlike Putin, at least Netanyahu did not order the strike to kill a couple of dozen pensioners lined up for their monthly cash pension.

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/09/09/at-least-24-killed-in-russian-airstrike-on-village-in-donetsk-region-a90470

          Am thinking though that the two of them are feeding off one another in their bloody minded determination to out swagger one another.

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #1361

            It would seem patience is in ever shorter supply the world over.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #1362

              The US seems to be reacting that they actually were given little to no notice of the air attack.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #1363

                Probably an act

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1364

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                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote last edited by
                    #1365

                    Trump peace plan details. I was going to give it its own thread but I’m pretty sure Hamas won’t accept it.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • A Offline
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                      AndyD
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1366

                      I think you're right. Hamas will read to line 6 and the plan, which sounds so reasonable to me, will be ripped up.

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1367

                        Board of peace? More like... Bored of peace!

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote last edited by
                          #1368

                          National building. We never learn.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote last edited by
                            #1369

                            PA approves it.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/palestinian-authority-responds-to-trump-gaza-peace-plan/ar-AA1NAhNO

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #1370

                              Yeah, because it’s their path to controlling Gaza.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1371

                                Of course.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #1372

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                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1373

                                    If it were genocide it would have been over a year or so ago.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      If it were genocide it would have been over a year or so ago.

                                      kluursK Offline
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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1374

                                      @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      If it were genocide it would have been over a year or so ago.

                                      It all depends on whether one uses a personal definition or the one that the UN, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Holocaust Museum, The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR - U.S.), The International Court of Justice (ICJ), B'Tselem (The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories), Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, Jewish Voice for Peace - to name a few entities who have defined Israel's activities as a genocide.

                                      Norman Finkelstein, a Jewish scholar of the Palestine situation, notes that 47% of Jews in Israel supported genocide in Gaza - i.e. asking if everyone in a city should be killed, answered "yes". Asked if there are "any innocents in Gaza?", 70% of Jewish Israelis answered "no". He also notes that's why the IDF "targets" toddlers. A member of the Jewish opposition stated that IDF soldiers kill children as a "hobby".

                                      But one can argue that an alternative definition as employed by many mainstream Jewish organizations in the US don't accept that Israel is committing genocide. It's a bit like the word "myth" - one can say that Christianity is based on myth - meaning a narrative which need not be based on fact, but some would argue that "myth" is a falsehood. One's definition leads to different answers.

                                      Genocide - using the above definition, has been pervasive throughout history. The US is based on genocide of many native peoples. The early Zionists knew that genocide would be necessary and discussed it openly - though avoiding the term. Ugly business. Good luck to all involved.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1375

                                        Honestly it’s like calling a glance at a black woman’s hair ‘white supremacy’.

                                        You take a word with a well understood and emotionally charged meaning and apply it to something very different with the hopes of getting some of the stink of the word on the new thing.

                                        Of course it also cheapens the word if you’re successful.

                                        This tweet pithily demonstrates that since most of us still assign to the word the original horror it was meant to convey, but there’s a palpable absurdity in its use given Hamas is taking days to decide whether it wants it to end and will probably not quite get there. After all, there’s hunger, and there’s release-the-hostages hunger. Their famine seems to be somewhere between the two.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1376

                                          Kind of like "antisemitism" - which may be an even more disenchanting rabbit hole to dive down.

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