Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:01 last edited by
Maybe elect an Independent to be the next Speaker, with votes from both major parties.
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Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:03 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
That is quite possible.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:10 last edited by
Jim Jordan says he’s interested in going for it.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:38 last edited by
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:17 last edited by
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:18 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:36 last edited by
Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
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The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:37 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:54 last edited by Mik 10 Apr 2023, 22:56
What was the point of this snippy little action? Good, lord, the GOP needs to stay clear away from this stuff. Now you can say this is a punishment for backing the McCarthy ouster, but why would the Dems not want to help the GOP shoot itself in the foot?
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:35 last edited by@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
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Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:35 last edited by@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
Jordan is a firebrand. Won't work.
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@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
I saw him walking and (barely) talking down a hallway today. He looked frail and dyspneic. Granted, it could be the chemo for his myeloma, but he didn't look too robust.
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@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:57 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?
Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?
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@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 00:41 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
No need to get snippy. We’re not so far apart, but my way or the highway just doesn’t fly in this nation. This was a tantrum and makes the GOP look unable to govern responsibly. Huge unforced error.
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?
Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?
wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 00:54 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?
Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?
Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 00:56 last edited by
“What kind of girl do you think I am?”.
“We’ve already established that. We’re only haggling over price.”.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?
Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?
Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.
wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 01:05 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.
They act like spoilt, petulant children, and the rest of the party is supposed to blow them? They shriek about election fraud with precious little evidence, they kick people out who dare to work with the other side of the aisle, they refuse to compromise?
Does it occur to you that maybe they're the bad guys here?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?
Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?
Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.
wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 01:22 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.
But if the 30% continues to act like they have been, then history will repeat itself.
No "red wave" in Congress
No Republic President
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wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 01:32 last edited by
@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Trump could be Speaker....
Maybe not.
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
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Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.
(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.
(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.
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@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Trump could be Speaker....
Maybe not.
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
QUOTE
Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.
(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.
(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.
wrote on 5 Oct 2023, 01:35 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Maybe not.
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
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Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.
Thanks for that. Interesting that it's just the indictment, not actual conviction.
