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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • MikM Mik

    Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.

    I think I'd prefer Jordan.

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    @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.

    I think I'd prefer Jordan.

    Jordan is a firebrand. Won't work.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

      I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.

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      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

      I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.

      I saw him walking and (barely) talking down a hallway today. He looked frail and dyspneic. Granted, it could be the chemo for his myeloma, but he didn't look too robust.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

        Go ahead, piss 'em off.

        Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

        With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

        Then write them off.

        Enjoy!

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        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        Then write them off.

        Enjoy!

        Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

        Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

        I was only joking

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

          Go ahead, piss 'em off.

          Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

          With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

          Then write them off.

          Enjoy!

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          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

          Go ahead, piss 'em off.

          Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

          With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

          Then write them off.

          Enjoy!

          No need to get snippy. We’re not so far apart, but my way or the highway just doesn’t fly in this nation. This was a tantrum and makes the GOP look unable to govern responsibly. Huge unforced error.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            Then write them off.

            Enjoy!

            Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

            Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            Then write them off.

            Enjoy!

            Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

            Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

            Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #84

              “What kind of girl do you think I am?”.

              “We’ve already established that. We’re only haggling over price.”.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                Then write them off.

                Enjoy!

                Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

                Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

                Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.

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                @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.

                They act like spoilt, petulant children, and the rest of the party is supposed to blow them? They shriek about election fraud with precious little evidence, they kick people out who dare to work with the other side of the aisle, they refuse to compromise?

                Does it occur to you that maybe they're the bad guys here?

                Link to video

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Then write them off.

                  Enjoy!

                  Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

                  Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

                  Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.

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                  @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Because without that 30%, you're not getting elected President or getting elected to any national office in many districts or states.

                  But if the 30% continues to act like they have been, then history will repeat itself.

                  No "red wave" in Congress
                  No Republic President
                  etc.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Trump could be Speaker....

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                    #87

                    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    Trump could be Speaker....

                    Maybe not.

                    https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/

                    QUOTE
                    Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

                    (a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

                    (b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.

                    (c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Trump could be Speaker....

                      Maybe not.

                      https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/

                      QUOTE
                      Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

                      (a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

                      (b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.

                      (c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Maybe not.

                      https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/

                      QUOTE
                      Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

                      (a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

                      Thanks for that. Interesting that it's just the indictment, not actual conviction.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mccarthy-dems-save-gop-save-house-analysis/story?id=103736683

                        An article on what could have been had McCarthy or the GOP is more open to bipartisanship. In there is also a list of bills with broad bipartisan support (have many co-sponsors from both major parties) that are not getting to the floor because of partisanship.

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                          #90

                          Funny, I don't remember you being worried about bipartisanship when Pelosi was speaker.

                          Must of missed it.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            There was no worry about the House causing a federal government default or federal government shutdown when Pelosi was speaker. With or without bipartisanship, the House Democrats know how to govern. The same cannot be said of the House Republicans in light of recent history. House Republicans, when they have the majority in the House, cannot be trusted to be left to their own devices. Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              There was no worry about the House causing a federal government default or federal government shutdown when Pelosi was speaker. With or without bipartisanship, the House Democrats know how to govern. The same cannot be said of the House Republicans in light of recent history. House Republicans, when they have the majority in the House, cannot be trusted to be left to their own devices. Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans.

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                              @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                              Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                              Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                                Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

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                                @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                                Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

                                Zero Democrat voted to retain McCarthy.

                                Do you think that fact supports or undermines my thesis that "bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans"?

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                                  Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

                                  Zero Democrat voted to retain McCarthy.

                                  Do you think that fact supports or undermines my thesis that "bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans"?

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                                  @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                                  Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

                                  Zero Democrat voted to retain McCarthy.

                                  Do you think that fact supports or undermines my thesis that "bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans"?

                                  Mr. Pedantic, you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Why are the Democrats so hell-bent on stopping the business of governing the country? Only 8-10 would have prevented this. But they voted party over nation, again.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                      @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                      Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

                                      Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

                                      Zero Democrat voted to retain McCarthy.

                                      Do you think that fact supports or undermines my thesis that "bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans"?

                                      Mr. Pedantic, you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

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                                      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                      ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                      1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

                                      2. I have already answered George's question.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                        1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

                                        2. I have already answered George's question.

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                                        @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                        1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

                                        2. I have already answered George's question.

                                        That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                          1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

                                          2. I have already answered George's question.

                                          That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

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                                          @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

                                          1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

                                          2. I have already answered George's question.

                                          That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

                                          Yep, complete and utter obfuscating bullshit.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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