Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?
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@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Newt, as usual, nails it.
I think he's right. I'm astonished the Republicans - well, that small faction - could be that stupid.
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:29 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:32 last edited by@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
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@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:34 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
One of the rumors is that Gaetz wanted McCarthy out because of those investigations. In fact, McCarthy said so last night, while pointing out that those investigations started before he was Speaker.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:36 last edited by
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:22 last edited by
Pence weighs in, and i think he nails it too. This is very bad for the GOP leading into primary season.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:27 last edited by
The drumbeat of GOP failure and disorganization continues.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:29 last edited by
Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:01 last edited by
Maybe elect an Independent to be the next Speaker, with votes from both major parties.
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Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:03 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
That is quite possible.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:10 last edited by
Jim Jordan says he’s interested in going for it.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:38 last edited by
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:17 last edited by
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:18 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:36 last edited by
Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
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The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:37 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:54 last edited by Mik 10 Apr 2023, 22:56
What was the point of this snippy little action? Good, lord, the GOP needs to stay clear away from this stuff. Now you can say this is a punishment for backing the McCarthy ouster, but why would the Dems not want to help the GOP shoot itself in the foot?
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:35 last edited by@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
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Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:35 last edited by@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
Jordan is a firebrand. Won't work.
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@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 23:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
I saw him walking and (barely) talking down a hallway today. He looked frail and dyspneic. Granted, it could be the chemo for his myeloma, but he didn't look too robust.