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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #63

    I didn't catch much of the debate, just the closing. So I'll take your word that Vivek's performance soured you... that being said, he seems to be trending well online today, perhaps he's picking up the Trump crowd and can run with it. Maybe he's playing 5D chess and getting the Trump support then he'll convert back to a conservative Obama for the GOP.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by Mik
      #64

      This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #65

        The NRO editors: "It Was Ramaswamy’s Night, but Not in a Good Way"

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #66

          FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

          Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

          Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Mik

            This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #67

            @Mik said in Debate day….:

            This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

            I thought she won too.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #68

              Any Republican primary voter here?
              @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

              LuFins DadL JollyJ 2 Replies Last reply
              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                #69

                His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                But yeah, Haley came across the best.

                The Brad

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Any Republican primary voter here?
                  @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #70

                  @Axtremus said in Debate day….:

                  Any Republican primary voter here?
                  @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

                  Who won? Manchin.

                  The Brad

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    #71

                    Pence appeared to be saying "Look, I deserve this - I put up with Trump for four long years". It smacked of a participation medal. He also thumped the Bible way too hard. It might win him evangelical support, which is considerable, but I just don't think people like him enough for him to win. It's too bad. he was a good governor and his conservative credentials are first rate. I suspect he was the key factor in Trump legislative victories.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      #72

                      Yeah, I agree. Pence didn't come off too well. He seemed angry - even more than Christie. I don't know much about his pre-VEEP history, however. Just seemed "unlikeable."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                        Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                        Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                        89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        #73

                        @George-K said in Debate day….:

                        FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                        Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                        Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                        LOL I don't know what is sadder. Don Jr casually referencing his father's "first indictment" (aka there are multiple now), or that he doesn't realize Fox has been hit really hard financially due to supporting Trump's election fraud lies. I'm not surprised Fox wouldn't want him there.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                          Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                          Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                          I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                          But yeah, Haley came across the best.

                          89th8 Offline
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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #74

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                          His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                          Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                          Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                          I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                          But yeah, Haley came across the best.

                          Good info, thanks

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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #75

                            At least SNL will have content to satire in 2 days

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #76

                              Yes. It will be worth watching. Ramswany is going to get skewered.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG George K

                                FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #77

                                @George-K said in Debate day….:

                                FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                                That's because FOX had barred the Trump people, then the order was changed and Trump supporters were to be allowed in the spin room.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  Any Republican primary voter here?
                                  @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #78

                                  @Axtremus said in Debate day….:

                                  Any Republican primary voter here?
                                  @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

                                  Nobody.

                                  Even GOP voters aren't paying much attention right now. Give it a few more, let the money increase or dry up for some and then people will start to seriously consider candidates.

                                  But I will say that unless the swarm can make a serious charge stick, Trump is the GOP nominee.

                                  If Trump is somehow knocked out, I'd run a ticket of Nicki and Scott, and watch the Demonrat racists howl...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #79

                                    That would be a nice ticket. Nikki was impressive from what I saw. And, call me sexist (or not), but her voice isn't annoying the way Hillary and Kamala are.

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                                      NobodySock
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                                      #80

                                      Link to video

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #81

                                        Be afraid.

                                        Be very afraid!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • N NobodySock

                                          Link to video

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                                          Copper
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                                          #82

                                          @NobodySock said in [Debate day….]

                                          Brilliant

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