Debate day….
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 11:57 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:25 last edited by
I didn't catch much of the debate, just the closing. So I'll take your word that Vivek's performance soured you... that being said, he seems to be trending well online today, perhaps he's picking up the Trump crowd and can run with it. Maybe he's playing 5D chess and getting the Trump support then he'll convert back to a conservative Obama for the GOP.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:40 last edited by Mik
This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:46 last edited by
The NRO editors: "It Was Ramaswamy’s Night, but Not in a Good Way"
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.
wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:03 last edited by@Mik said in Debate day….:
This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.
I thought she won too.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:07 last edited by
His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)
Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.
Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.
I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.
But yeah, Haley came across the best.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:08 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Debate day….:
Any Republican primary voter here?
@Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?Who won? Manchin.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:10 last edited by Mik
Pence appeared to be saying "Look, I deserve this - I put up with Trump for four long years". It smacked of a participation medal. He also thumped the Bible way too hard. It might win him evangelical support, which is considerable, but I just don't think people like him enough for him to win. It's too bad. he was a good governor and his conservative credentials are first rate. I suspect he was the key factor in Trump legislative victories.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:15 last edited by
Yeah, I agree. Pence didn't come off too well. He seemed angry - even more than Christie. I don't know much about his pre-VEEP history, however. Just seemed "unlikeable."
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:20 last edited by
@George-K said in Debate day….:
FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.
Gavin Newsom's exDon Jr.'s girlfriendAttorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.
LOL I don't know what is sadder. Don Jr casually referencing his father's "first indictment" (aka there are multiple now), or that he doesn't realize Fox has been hit really hard financially due to supporting Trump's election fraud lies. I'm not surprised Fox wouldn't want him there.
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His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)
Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.
Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.
I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.
But yeah, Haley came across the best.
wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:23 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:
His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)
Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.
Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.
I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.
But yeah, Haley came across the best.
Good info, thanks
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:23 last edited by
At least SNL will have content to satire in 2 days
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:34 last edited by
Yes. It will be worth watching. Ramswany is going to get skewered.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:44 last edited by
@George-K said in Debate day….:
FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.
Gavin Newsom's exDon Jr.'s girlfriendAttorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.
That's because FOX had barred the Trump people, then the order was changed and Trump supporters were to be allowed in the spin room.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:57 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Debate day….:
Any Republican primary voter here?
@Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?Nobody.
Even GOP voters aren't paying much attention right now. Give it a few more, let the money increase or dry up for some and then people will start to seriously consider candidates.
But I will say that unless the swarm can make a serious charge stick, Trump is the GOP nominee.
If Trump is somehow knocked out, I'd run a ticket of Nicki and Scott, and watch the Demonrat racists howl...
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 14:08 last edited by
That would be a nice ticket. Nikki was impressive from what I saw. And, call me sexist (or not), but her voice isn't annoying the way Hillary and Kamala are.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 15:31 last edited by
Be afraid.
Be very afraid!
