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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 03:22 last edited by
    #58

    I think Manchin did pretty well tonight.

    The Brad

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      NobodySock
      wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 05:59 last edited by NobodySock
      #59

      And with this clown show, the Republican party is dead. They are going to lose house senate and Oval Office for many many years to come. Sane people, for which still hold the majority of this country , are not going to let these dreadful people govern anything. Even with your electoral college, which has been to only way republicans can win anything the last 25 years.
      Lindsey Graham, the biggest pussy in America, was right about one thing some seven years ago.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 11:24 last edited by
        #60

        Speaking of sane people, how's your therapy going?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
          wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 11:32 last edited by
          #61

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 11:57 last edited by
            #62

            F4Sn0DHXQAA6OjL.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
              wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:25 last edited by
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              I didn't catch much of the debate, just the closing. So I'll take your word that Vivek's performance soured you... that being said, he seems to be trending well online today, perhaps he's picking up the Trump crowd and can run with it. Maybe he's playing 5D chess and getting the Trump support then he'll convert back to a conservative Obama for the GOP.

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                Mik
                wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:40 last edited by Mik
                #64

                This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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                  The NRO editors: "It Was Ramaswamy’s Night, but Not in a Good Way"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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                    FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                    Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                    Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • M Mik
                      24 Aug 2023, 12:40

                      This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Debate day….:

                      This commentator thought Haley won. She's probably still my first choice. From what I've read this morning, a lot of younger voters still like Vivek.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-surprise-winner-of-the-debate/ar-AA1fHiCG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d8de830ce5f47a8aeb156fb86c6b7a8&ei=36

                      I thought she won too.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:06 last edited by
                        #68

                        Any Republican primary voter here?
                        @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:07 last edited by
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                          His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                          Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                          Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                          I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                          But yeah, Haley came across the best.

                          The Brad

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                          • A Axtremus
                            24 Aug 2023, 13:06

                            Any Republican primary voter here?
                            @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:08 last edited by
                            #70

                            @Axtremus said in Debate day….:

                            Any Republican primary voter here?
                            @Jolly? Who do you think “won” the Aug.23 debate?

                            Who won? Manchin.

                            The Brad

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:10 last edited by Mik
                              #71

                              Pence appeared to be saying "Look, I deserve this - I put up with Trump for four long years". It smacked of a participation medal. He also thumped the Bible way too hard. It might win him evangelical support, which is considerable, but I just don't think people like him enough for him to win. It's too bad. he was a good governor and his conservative credentials are first rate. I suspect he was the key factor in Trump legislative victories.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
                                wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:15 last edited by
                                #72

                                Yeah, I agree. Pence didn't come off too well. He seemed angry - even more than Christie. I don't know much about his pre-VEEP history, however. Just seemed "unlikeable."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  24 Aug 2023, 13:03

                                  FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                  Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                  Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:20 last edited by
                                  #73

                                  @George-K said in Debate day….:

                                  FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                  Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                  Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                                  LOL I don't know what is sadder. Don Jr casually referencing his father's "first indictment" (aka there are multiple now), or that he doesn't realize Fox has been hit really hard financially due to supporting Trump's election fraud lies. I'm not surprised Fox wouldn't want him there.

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                                    24 Aug 2023, 13:07

                                    His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                                    Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                                    Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                                    I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                                    But yeah, Haley came across the best.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:23 last edited by
                                    #74

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                                    His clear contradictions turned me off. I liked his attack on the Trump/Pence administration over the incredible deficit spending even before COVID, but then a few minutes later he’s calling Trump the greatest republican president of the century (which, by the way, he’s one of only 2…)

                                    Personally? DeSantis did better but he started off like a very bad robot impression and his responses actually sounded like ChatGPT. He has made a mistake by not aggressively attacking Trump. This DEI and Trans Idealogy crap didn’t start under his administration, but it surely flourished in the schools durin the DeVos years. And beyond that he needs to attack the shutdowns and directly tie all of those policies to Trump.

                                    Christie was horrible, but he did find some footing with the Pence defense and I thought it was a particularly human moment when he started to raise his hand about supporting Trump then waffled. His statement about not allowing this behavior to continue was weak, but was the only attempt by anybody to really start to address the issue.

                                    I actually came out liking Hutchison. He has no chance, but he stood by his guns. And in everything else not Trump related he came across well.

                                    But yeah, Haley came across the best.

                                    Good info, thanks

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:23 last edited by
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                                      At least SNL will have content to satire in 2 days

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:34 last edited by
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                                        Yes. It will be worth watching. Ramswany is going to get skewered.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          24 Aug 2023, 13:03

                                          FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                          Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                          Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 13:44 last edited by
                                          #77

                                          @George-K said in Debate day….:

                                          FFS - His father refused to attend the debate. I probably have as much right being in the "spin room" as Don Jr. does.

                                          Gavin Newsom's ex Don Jr.'s girlfriend Attorney Kimberly Guilfoyle calls it a "1st amendment violation."

                                          Go back to Con Law 101, counselor.

                                          That's because FOX had barred the Trump people, then the order was changed and Trump supporters were to be allowed in the spin room.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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