Informal Poll…

[Horace]

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

[Mik]

And I hope Scott is smart enough to refuse the VP nod. The guy has a legit shot at the WH. He should not hitch his star to the Trump wagon.

[George K]

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

My thoughts as well.

Manchin seems, for the most part, to be a reasonable guy. But I don't see his role in 2024 as anything but that of Ross Perot spoiler. The question is who will he spoil?

[Copper]

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

With that kind of thinking, nobody would have voted for Mr. Trump in 2016.

Manchin.

[Horace]

@Copper said in Informal Poll…:

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

With that kind of thinking, nobody would have voted for Mr. Trump in 2016.

Manchin.

No, he clearly had a shot on election day.

[LuFins Dad]

I’m more curious to hear from some of the left leaning folk. Would @jon-nyc go with a Manchin?

[Horace]

Anybody who considers Trump an existential risk, would game their vote to maximize the chance of beating Trump. At that point it just becomes finger to the wind stuff about Trump's opponents, and whichever of them stands the best chance of winning.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Informal Poll…:

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

My thoughts as well.

Manchin seems, for the most part, to be a reasonable guy. But I don't see his role in 2024 as anything but that of Ross Perot spoiler. The question is who will he spoil?

Biden.

[Mik]

@George-K said in Informal Poll…:

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

My thoughts as well.

Manchin seems, for the most part, to be a reasonable guy. But I don't see his role in 2024 as anything but that of Ross Perot spoiler. The question is who will he spoil?

In 92 we had two main party candidates who were well qualified. It’s not looking like that for 24.

[89th]

Of the 3 choices, Manchin. The only one who hasn’t lost his mind.

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Informal Poll…:

@George-K said in Informal Poll…:

@Horace said in Informal Poll…:

If I thought they could win I’d go manchin. I wouldn’t intentionally vote for a lost cause though.

My thoughts as well.

Manchin seems, for the most part, to be a reasonable guy. But I don't see his role in 2024 as anything but that of Ross Perot spoiler. The question is who will he spoil?

In 92 we had two main party candidates who were well qualified. It’s not looking like that for 24.

Hell, in 96 Perot was the nuts one. Now he would be the sane one… Do you hear what I’m telling yiu?

[LuFins Dad]

Follow up question for @Horace @George-K

At what polling percentage do you take a shot on Manchin? If he’s polling at 20%? 30%?

[Mik]

Perot ran in 92.

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Informal Poll…:

Perot ran in 92.

And 96. But he was a little off by then.

[LuFins Dad]

Let’s bring this back… Anybody have a different opinion now? Also curious to hear from @jon-nyc @kluurs @Aqua-Letifer @bachophile

[Aqua Letifer]

@89th said in Informal Poll…:

Of the 3 choices, Manchin. The only one who hasn’t lost his mind.

Same. But I also don't give a shit.

1. The biggest fallout from the November election isn't going to be any election result, but how we decide to react. We could have Portland on steroids in every major city if we wanted to. Or we could suck it the fuck up and react maturely. I'm not holding my breath.
2. It's my silly opinion that we've reached late-stage Boomer-era progress. Because I think Ted's right about the following, I find political discourse, from Manchin or otherwise, largely irrelevant: https://www.honest-broker.com/p/i-ask-seven-heretical-questions-about

[Horace]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Informal Poll…:

The biggest fallout from the November election isn't going to be any election result, but how we decide to react. We could have Portland on steroids in every major city if we wanted to. Or we could suck it the fuck up and react maturely. I'm not holding my breath.

This is a legit concern if Trump wins (it will be chaos, because the adults in the room at the levers of institutional power will collectively throw hysterical temper tantrums, and nobody around them will the adult to their child). But I don't see any issues if Biden wins again, beyond some local and easily put down unrest. Everybody will get back to normal life within a few days.

[Copper]

I think the People of Whatever will react.

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Informal Poll…:

@89th said in Informal Poll…:

Of the 3 choices, Manchin. The only one who hasn’t lost his mind.

Same. But I also don't give a shit.

1. The biggest fallout from the November election isn't going to be any election result, but how we decide to react. We could have Portland on steroids in every major city if we wanted to. Or we could suck it the fuck up and react maturely. I'm not holding my breath.
2. It's my silly opinion that we've reached late-stage Boomer-era progress. Because I think Ted's right about the following, I find political discourse, from Manchin or otherwise, largely irrelevant: https://www.honest-broker.com/p/i-ask-seven-heretical-questions-about

Good article. Comments are good, too.

[Jolly]

Human nature does not change.

For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? - Matthew 16:26 NKJV