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    Horace
    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 20:49 last edited by
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    Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

    Education is extremely important.

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      16 Jul 2020, 20:49

      Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

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      George K
      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 20:54 last edited by
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      @Horace said in "Whiteness":

      Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

      "Other cultures?"

      Hell, I'd like to see a poster like that about black cultures.

      Can you imagine if there were comments about black aesthetics? It would be branded as racist faster than you can say Sir-Mix-A-Lot.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Rainman
        wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:29 last edited by
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        LuFins Dad, great post above!

        Actually, lots of great posts in this thread.

        But none of you have been able to answer what to me is a fundamental question, which is:

        If a black man and a white woman have a kid,
        why isn't the kid gray?
        hmmm?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:38 last edited by
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          D1823C8B-5784-4528-936E-10ED55B1E845.png

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:46 last edited by
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            That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

            The Brad

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              17 Jul 2020, 02:46

              That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

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              Loki
              wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 03:06 last edited by Loki
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 04:29 last edited by
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                "Productive conversation."

                I'll stay with "21st Century Racism" for 300, Alex!

                Please love yourself.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 11:20 last edited by
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                  Right now, the most productive conversation about race, is no conversation about race.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
                    wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 11:22 last edited by
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                    "Let's have a conversations" means "Shut UP, and listen to what I say."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 16:02 last edited by
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                      NMAAHC

                      Get a job, creep

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                        George K
                        wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:50 last edited by
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                        Jonah GOldberg:

                        https://thedispatch.com/p/when-bigotry-comes-from-unexpected

                        If I were to say to a black friend, never mind a black stranger or co-worker, “Look, I understand your culture doesn’t value punctuality or hard work the way mine does ...” would that be better? It would certainly be impolite to say the least.

                        Occasionally impolite, I guess.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:57 last edited by
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                          "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                          Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:10 last edited by Horace
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                            "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse."

                            "Almost"? The left salivates at the idea of worse race relations. And the easiest way they can do that is to increase the perception of racism.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:25 last edited by
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                              The Left/democrats have always been the racists.

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                                17 Jul 2020, 22:57

                                "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:11 last edited by
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                                @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                                Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

                                The Brad

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:39 last edited by
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                                  Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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                                    I do? Really?

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      18 Jul 2020, 00:11

                                      @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                      Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                                      Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 09:11 last edited by Catseye3
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                      Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

                                      I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

                                      One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        18 Jul 2020, 09:11

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                        Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

                                        I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

                                        One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 11:58 last edited by
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                                        @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                        One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

                                        If this was some stupid meme posted to Facebook, sure. If this was on a pamphlet circulated by some millennials, maybe. This was created, approved, and published by The Smithsonian. The research it was based on was generated by one of the most prominent activists on social justice in the US. This isn’t some out there group, this was the freaking Smithsonian.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 12:05 last edited by
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                                          I don't say it was awful. I just think it could have been, I don't know, more substantive maybe? Maybe readers of material put out by the Smithsonian could be thought to grok weightier stuff?

                                          We'll just have to disagree on this one, LuFin.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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