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  • M Mik
    16 Jul 2020, 12:27

    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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    Copper
    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:10 last edited by
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    @Mik said in "Whiteness":

    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

    They have their own separate museum.

    The whites don't, they have to share.

    They get what they deserve

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      Mik
      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:44 last edited by
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      Whites are no damn good.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Horace
        wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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        Their life experience is at a lower level than the experiences of non whites. That barrier is one through which mere verbal communication cannot penetrate. People born with white skin will die without ever having known what it is to truly be alive.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • M Mik
          16 Jul 2020, 16:44

          Whites are no damn good.

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          Loki
          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:48 last edited by
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          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

          Whites are no damn good.

          The young whites already know that. They are actually ashamed to be born from such ruthless parents.

          The new book for all of them should be Too Much and Too Little.

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          • I ILM
            16 Jul 2020, 15:53

            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:49 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

            Please love yourself.

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              16 Jul 2020, 16:49

              @ILM said in "Whiteness":

              Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

              I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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              Mik
              wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:51 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

              @ILM said in "Whiteness":

              Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

              I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

              It certainly is.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:52 last edited by
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                I once went to a museum that had a presentation entitled "The Americans": From what I remember, they described a fairly basic culture, mostly stolen from the British, but with more shouting.

                I was only joking

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:53 last edited by
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                  That's without even addressing the obvious digs in the list. This wasn't even an attempt to explain "whiteness" with generalities. The game was, "how can we vilify this group? Let's see, let's throw in some contradictions, some intolerance because everyone knows how intolerant The Whites are, some silly things we want to make fun of and call them White based on I-have-no-idea-what... there we go, good list."

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    16 Jul 2020, 16:49

                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:56 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                    It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                    No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:57 last edited by
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                      Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                      The Brad

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                      • C Catseye3
                        16 Jul 2020, 16:56

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                        It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                        No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                        @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                        It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                        No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                        It's not even a funny list. It's not a list of silly stereotypes that are typically attributed to white people: mac & cheese, Kenny G, gluten aversions and the like. That I could get behind, because, okay, jokes. Instead, they might as well have labeled this raciographic as "Why White People Suck."

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          16 Jul 2020, 16:57

                          Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                          Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                          I did. Those are where I got the quotes from.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • M Mik
                            16 Jul 2020, 16:51

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                            It certainly is.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 17:33 last edited by Copper
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                            @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                            It certainly is.

                            It certainly is.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 17:41 last edited by
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                              No it isn't

                              I was only joking

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:32 last edited by Larry
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                                I am now WOKE. I see now that I have been wrong my entire life for seeing all people as equal, and seeing all races as equal. I should have been a racist all along. Henceforth I now know that the Red Man is racially superior, blacks and whites both have been my oppressors, and from today forward will demand that all you coons and crackers treat me like the superior human that I am....

                                Wow... what a sense of power I'm getting from the realization that I am your superior!!!

                                Now BOW, honky!

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:38 last edited by
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                                  I think it's fair to say that we've always given you all the respect that you deserve.

                                  And more.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:41 last edited by
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                                    BOW, cracker!

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:52 last edited by
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                                      Rest assured, I'm bowing on the inside. On the outside, you're getting the bird.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 19:00 last edited by
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                                        Hahahahaha

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 19:40 last edited by
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                                          Here's the real dangers in that poster IMO:

                                          1. "Self-reliance - Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded" these are positive human attributes regardless of race... Every person should aspire to those ideals. I would think that a race that spent 300 years in slavery would particularly value independence and autonomy. To do otherwise is to ask for shackles.

                                          "Emphasis on Scientific Method - Objective, rational thinking - Cause and effect relationships - Quantitative emphasis" again, what's the problem? Seems pretty reasonable to me. What is the reasonable alternative? By the way, empirical methods for both science and social issues were first developed and used in Northern Africa...

                                          "Justice - Based on English common law" Not entirely, especially since English common law has influences from around the world, but aside from that, yeah? So what? Got something better? Didn't think so.

                                          1. They then sprinkle the above statements into absolutely absurd stereotypes like "Win at all costs - Wife subordinate to the husband - If you didn't reach your goals, you didn't work hard enough" in an obvious attempt to paint those other ideals as being equally ludicrous.

                                          The Brad

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