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"Whiteness"

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  • MikM Mik

    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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    @Mik said in "Whiteness":

    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

    Good question. Presumably the opposite of the things in the posters.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Funny - they don't have a topic for that. Which is in itself racism.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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        @Mik said in "Whiteness":

        So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

        Music that isn't shite.

        I was only joking

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          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

          Music that isn't shite.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

          Music that isn't shite.

          You sure about that?

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            That's not music.

            I was only joking

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            • MikM Mik

              So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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              @Mik said in "Whiteness":

              So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

              That question can be easily parried with a response like this:

              The Smithie has an entire museum for that: the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History & Culture

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                As to the original topic presented in the opening post ...

                Oy! Really?That’s wack! 何 (なに)?Alamak! 有冇搞錯?

                Pardon my multicultural expressions of befuddlement and incredulity.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  That's not music.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

                  That's not music.

                  Neither is this.

                  Link to video

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    A lot of fascinating stuff from the Smithsonian site:

                    What are some aspects of whiteness you’ve internalized? How can these be hurtful to you and others?

                    It’s nice to be in spaces where I can feel free to say what I want, talk about complex systems of white supremacy, and express my frustrations without having to worry about the feelings of the white people in the room.

                    To learn more on how to teach your child about the ways whiteness is prevalent in society, watch this video with concrete examples and suggestions:

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                      • I ILM

                        Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                        @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                        Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

                        Exactly. White kids in their 20’s would not recognize themselves in this.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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                          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                          They have their own separate museum.

                          The whites don't, they have to share.

                          They get what they deserve

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                            Whites are no damn good.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Their life experience is at a lower level than the experiences of non whites. That barrier is one through which mere verbal communication cannot penetrate. People born with white skin will die without ever having known what it is to truly be alive.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Whites are no damn good.

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                                @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                                Whites are no damn good.

                                The young whites already know that. They are actually ashamed to be born from such ruthless parents.

                                The new book for all of them should be Too Much and Too Little.

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                                  Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                                  @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                  Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                  I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                    It certainly is.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      I once went to a museum that had a presentation entitled "The Americans": From what I remember, they described a fairly basic culture, mostly stolen from the British, but with more shouting.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        That's without even addressing the obvious digs in the list. This wasn't even an attempt to explain "whiteness" with generalities. The game was, "how can we vilify this group? Let's see, let's throw in some contradictions, some intolerance because everyone knows how intolerant The Whites are, some silly things we want to make fun of and call them White based on I-have-no-idea-what... there we go, good list."

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                          It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                          No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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