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"Whiteness"

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    That's not music.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

    That's not music.

    Neither is this.

    Link to video

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Aqua Letifer
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      A lot of fascinating stuff from the Smithsonian site:

      What are some aspects of whiteness you’ve internalized? How can these be hurtful to you and others?

      It’s nice to be in spaces where I can feel free to say what I want, talk about complex systems of white supremacy, and express my frustrations without having to worry about the feelings of the white people in the room.

      To learn more on how to teach your child about the ways whiteness is prevalent in society, watch this video with concrete examples and suggestions:

      Please love yourself.

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        Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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        • I ILM

          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

          Exactly. White kids in their 20’s would not recognize themselves in this.

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          • MikM Mik

            So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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            @Mik said in "Whiteness":

            So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

            They have their own separate museum.

            The whites don't, they have to share.

            They get what they deserve

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              Whites are no damn good.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Their life experience is at a lower level than the experiences of non whites. That barrier is one through which mere verbal communication cannot penetrate. People born with white skin will die without ever having known what it is to truly be alive.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Whites are no damn good.

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                  @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                  Whites are no damn good.

                  The young whites already know that. They are actually ashamed to be born from such ruthless parents.

                  The new book for all of them should be Too Much and Too Little.

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                  • I ILM

                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                      Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                      I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                      @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                      Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                      I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                      It certainly is.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        I once went to a museum that had a presentation entitled "The Americans": From what I remember, they described a fairly basic culture, mostly stolen from the British, but with more shouting.

                        I was only joking

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                          That's without even addressing the obvious digs in the list. This wasn't even an attempt to explain "whiteness" with generalities. The game was, "how can we vilify this group? Let's see, let's throw in some contradictions, some intolerance because everyone knows how intolerant The Whites are, some silly things we want to make fun of and call them White based on I-have-no-idea-what... there we go, good list."

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                            It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                            No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                              The Brad

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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

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                                @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                                It's not even a funny list. It's not a list of silly stereotypes that are typically attributed to white people: mac & cheese, Kenny G, gluten aversions and the like. That I could get behind, because, okay, jokes. Instead, they might as well have labeled this raciographic as "Why White People Suck."

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                  Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                                  I did. Those are where I got the quotes from.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                    It certainly is.

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                                    @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                    @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                    Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                    I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                    It certainly is.

                                    It certainly is.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      No it isn't

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Larry
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                                        I am now WOKE. I see now that I have been wrong my entire life for seeing all people as equal, and seeing all races as equal. I should have been a racist all along. Henceforth I now know that the Red Man is racially superior, blacks and whites both have been my oppressors, and from today forward will demand that all you coons and crackers treat me like the superior human that I am....

                                        Wow... what a sense of power I'm getting from the realization that I am your superior!!!

                                        Now BOW, honky!

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          I think it's fair to say that we've always given you all the respect that you deserve.

                                          And more.

                                          I was only joking

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