What's going on in Russia?
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wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 22:28 last edited by
@Renauda said in What's going on in Russia?:
Am sure he’ll be quite safe from the Kremlin and FSB in Belarus.
Riiiight.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 23:44 last edited by
What about the Russian troops that supposedly joined Wagners column?
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wrote on 25 Jun 2023, 00:44 last edited by
@Renauda said in What's going on in Russia?:
Am sure he’ll be quite safe from the Kremlin and FSB in Belarus.
It’s hard to fathom why he agreed to this. If you shoot at the king….,
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@Renauda said in What's going on in Russia?:
Am sure he’ll be quite safe from the Kremlin and FSB in Belarus.
It’s hard to fathom why he agreed to this. If you shoot at the king….,
wrote on 25 Jun 2023, 01:04 last edited by RenaudaThey made him an offer he couldn’ t refuse after they made clear to him what was going to happen to his immediate family members, the Wagner officer corps and the majority of his troops if he didn’t.
He knows very well that some day they will come for him anyway. He is a dead man either way.
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@Renauda said in What's going on in Russia?:
Am sure he’ll be quite safe from the Kremlin and FSB in Belarus.
It’s hard to fathom why he agreed to this. If you shoot at the king….,
wrote on 25 Jun 2023, 01:08 last edited by@Mik said in What's going on in Russia?:
It’s hard to fathom why he agreed to this.
Probably safe to assume that there was a lot going on that we may never know the extent of.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2023, 01:10 last edited by
@Copper said in What's going on in Russia?:
Follow Mr. Putin's plane here:
Flightradar24 is great btw. The app also has augmented reality and also 3D view of planes as they fly. Amazing stuff, and the playback is great. For example you can see Putin’s plane as it returns to Moscow, it had a near steady drop from 24,000 to landing without a change in descent angle, probably to avoid any level flying and being shot at.
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 13:11 last edited by
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 13:57 last edited by
They're building a camp for 8000 Wagner troops in Belarus, 200 klicks from the Ukraine border.
Things that make you go hmmmm....
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They're building a camp for 8000 Wagner troops in Belarus, 200 klicks from the Ukraine border.
Things that make you go hmmmm....
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:37 last edited by
I have a place all warmed up for you, Darth. Come on down.
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I have a place all warmed up for you, Darth. Come on down.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:38 last edited by@TheDevilHimself said in What's going on in Russia?:
I have a place all warmed up for you, Darth. Come on down.
LOL.
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wrote on 28 Jun 2023, 21:21 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Jun 2023, 21:59 last edited by
Am sure there will be others to follow:
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wrote on 29 Jun 2023, 14:40 last edited by
It’s getting even murkier…
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wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 23:12 last edited by
The Wagner 'Coup' Was Staged by Putin
By now, everyone has heard about the narrowly avoided coup in Russia: Last Friday night, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, one of Putin's most trusted allies and the commander of the notorious Russian mercinary Wagner Group, marched on Moscow in an apparent coup d'etat, only to come to a swift agreement with Vladimir Putin and decamp for Belarus. While most commentators acknowledged that things didn't quite add up, the "expert" class happily concluded that at least it had weakened Putin in his war against Ukraine.
None seemed to realize the obvious truth: The coup was staged, and completely faked false flag operation.
Think about it: An army invades Russia, race right up to Moscow, and no one gets hurt? With just a few thousand men, it achieved what Hitler with almost a million men wasn't able to? And Putin holds his military back? And then, with Moscow supposedly within his grasp, Prigozhin decides, "Oh well, never mind" and heads to Belarus?
Prigozhin would have had to be an idiot or suicidal to think that with 8,000 men he could invade Moscow. Yet Prigozhin is very smart man, a juvenile delinquent turned convict, then hot dog salesman, then CEO of a multi-million dollar catering business serving the Kremlin, to finally commander of the world's most formidable mercenary force. It is utterly implausible that Prigozhin thought that he could take on Rosgvardia, Russia's National Guard, a 340,000-strong domestic security force reporting directly Putin.
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wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 23:25 last edited by
for what purpose?
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wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 18:21 last edited by Renauda 7 Mar 2023, 23:28
Last weekend, given the bizarreness of the events that unfolded and were magically resolved, the idea that the mutiny might have been staged did occur to me. However by mid week last, I abandoned that notion. Putin and his inner circle reman firmly in control and Prigozhin is essentially paid off and put away safely in the fridge - at least for the time being. His personal military fiefdom is being broken up and redeployed as deemed necessary. Putin will now work to take some tarnish off his up until now, carefully cultivated domestic image.
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wrote on 4 Jul 2023, 15:20 last edited by
At best, there might have been some passive support but it was tempered by lukewarm curiosity: