Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 16:49 last edited by
I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?
And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:01 last edited by
I haven't seen a plausible explanation, other than implosion. They actually had lots of safeguards in place, but it all hinged on not imploding, of course. Sand bags were attached to the sub by ropes that would dissolve in water after some number of hours, so even if everybody was unconscious, the sub would have floated to the top. Unless it imploded.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:49 last edited by
They're saying the debris is from part of the sub - a landing frame and rear cover
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:52 last edited by
Were those parts important?
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:11 last edited by
I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.
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I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?
And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:16 last edited by 89th@LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?
And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…
Believe it or not, there is legal precedent for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens
In short. 4 men were in a lifeboat in the later 1800s... after many days, one of the men was in a coma. So they killed him and ate him. They claimed "custom of the sea" as a defense (a real thing btw, an alternative to maritime law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custom_of_the_sea), but ultimately were sentenced to the statutory death penalty.
I guess back to your point, there was a reddit thread about this too, but basically yes if someone died, it would increase the length of available oxygen.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:16 last edited by
@Mik said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.
Including those who were forced to watch the movie?
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:33 last edited by
Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:51 last edited by
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Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:07 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.
Oh totally. They say it happens 5x faster than the human brain can even process. Would be faster than a light switch.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:32 last edited by kluurs
worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/ -
@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."
The tweet has been deleted.
The internet is forever:
So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:37 last edited by@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."
The tweet has been deleted.
The internet is forever:
So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.
Did you see the whole attempt to blame it on Elon Musk and Starlink?
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:46 last edited by
If the sub was disabled the pilot would surely know that recovery could take weeks.
He would have no choice
He would have to kill the others to save himself
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worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 01:30 last edited by@kluurs said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/I just watched that this morning. This is sad but I wonder if they have video footage from the main ship documenting the trip and accidentally documenting the initial confusion and reaction when it went missing.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 01:32 last edited by 89th
So it sounds like the facts are in.
The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately. This helped eventually narrow the search area. A Canadian remotely operated sub found wreckage debris, including main hull, on the ocean floor about 1,700 feet from the titanic. Likely no bodies to recover.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 01:38 last edited by
THey're also blaming the implosion on repeated stress on the hull.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 02:20 last edited by
What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?
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What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?
wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 02:27 last edited by@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Like after repeat trips into the ocean
This.
Aircraft are certified for only so many cycles before structural failures need to be addressed.
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A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...
wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 02:43 last edited by@Jolly said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...
I'm back to this one...
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wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 02:46 last edited by
So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….