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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
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    #92

    worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
    https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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    • George KG George K

      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

      At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

      The tweet has been deleted.

      The internet is forever:

      image.jpeg

      So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

      image.jpeg

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      #93

      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

      At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

      The tweet has been deleted.

      The internet is forever:

      image.jpeg

      So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

      image.jpeg

      Did you see the whole attempt to blame it on Elon Musk and Starlink?

      The Brad

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      • CopperC Offline
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        #94

        If the sub was disabled the pilot would surely know that recovery could take weeks.

        He would have no choice

        He would have to kill the others to save himself

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        • kluursK kluurs

          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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          #95

          @kluurs said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

          I just watched that this morning. This is sad but I wonder if they have video footage from the main ship documenting the trip and accidentally documenting the initial confusion and reaction when it went missing.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #96

            So it sounds like the facts are in.

            The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately. This helped eventually narrow the search area. A Canadian remotely operated sub found wreckage debris, including main hull, on the ocean floor about 1,700 feet from the titanic. Likely no bodies to recover.

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            • George KG Offline
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              #97

              THey're also blaming the implosion on repeated stress on the hull.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                #98

                What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?

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                  @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                  Like after repeat trips into the ocean

                  This.

                  Aircraft are certified for only so many cycles before structural failures need to be addressed.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...

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                    @Jolly said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                    A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...

                    I'm back to this one...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #101

                      So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

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                        Jon
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                        #102

                        Aliens

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          So it sounds like the facts are in.

                          The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately. This helped eventually narrow the search area. A Canadian remotely operated sub found wreckage debris, including main hull, on the ocean floor about 1,700 feet from the titanic. Likely no bodies to recover.

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                          Jon
                          wrote on last edited by Jon
                          #103

                          @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          So it sounds like the facts are in.

                          The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                          So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

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                            Link to video

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              So it sounds like the facts are in.

                              The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                              So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

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                              @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              So it sounds like the facts are in.

                              The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                              So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

                              From the NYT:

                              The U.S. Navy, using data from a secret network of underwater sensors designed to track hostile submarines, detected “an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion” in the vicinity of the Titan submersible at the time communications with the vessel were lost on Sunday, two senior Navy officials said on Thursday.

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

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                                #106

                                @bachophile said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

                                My guess is ghosts banging on Davy Jones locker.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #107

                                  So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    The ocean is a noisy place.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

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                                      #109

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

                                      My guess is, while it was consistent with an implosion sound, they couldn’t know for sure if that’s what it was, and didn’t want people to call off the search based on any statement they made.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        THey're also blaming the implosion on repeated stress on the hull.

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                                        @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        THey're also blaming the implosion on repeated stress on the hull.

                                        I know nothing about undersea vehicles, but when we test for structural integrity under pressure there's a couple of things we do:

                                        1. Test a sample to considerably higher pressure than it's actually going to be subjected to - i.e. 1.5 times or 4 times the rated pressure

                                        2. We don't allow use of the prototype we've actually done the tests on in the field.

                                        It looks like what these guys did was test the safety of the submarine by actually just using the submarine, and since it was ok, they just carried on using it.

                                        William Kohnen, chairman of the Manned Underwater Vehicles Committee, has told the BBC that regulations for building submersible vessels were "written in blood".

                                        Yeah, these people just ignored all the data that was already out there. Also, they avoided having to comply with legislation by only operating in international waters. People should go to jail for this, except of course the guy making the decisions is dead.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

                                          To the public, maybe. I believe the Navy was coordinate with search and rescue efforts to narrow their search area.

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