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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #76

    Well, breathable air should be gone…

    The Brad

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      bachophile
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      #77

      IMG_0100.jpeg

      This pic was tweeted out recently.

      4X-EDL is an Elal Boeing 787. On June 20 it did the Miami Tel Aviv route. They got this message from ATC. What they were they thinking? That a plane at 36000 feet can see a vehicle the size of a SUV in the floating middle of the Atlantic. But I guess it never hurts to try.

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        IMG_0100.jpeg

        This pic was tweeted out recently.

        4X-EDL is an Elal Boeing 787. On June 20 it did the Miami Tel Aviv route. They got this message from ATC. What they were they thinking? That a plane at 36000 feet can see a vehicle the size of a SUV in the floating middle of the Atlantic. But I guess it never hurts to try.

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        Renauda
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        #78

        @bachophile

        Yes, there’s always the proverbial, off-chance.

        Elbows up!

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        • HoraceH Online
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          Horace
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          #79

          That would be like trying to spot a submersible 12000 feet under the ocean.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • bachophileB Offline
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            bachophile
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            #80

            Coast guard tweeted out

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #81

              Can you imagine if they found more Trump classified files inside the sub?

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #82

                I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

                The Brad

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  #83

                  I haven't seen a plausible explanation, other than implosion. They actually had lots of safeguards in place, but it all hinged on not imploding, of course. Sand bags were attached to the sub by ropes that would dissolve in water after some number of hours, so even if everybody was unconscious, the sub would have floated to the top. Unless it imploded.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #84

                    They're saying the debris is from part of the sub - a landing frame and rear cover

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464

                    I was only joking

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      Horace
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                      #85

                      Were those parts important?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                          And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

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                          89th
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                          #87

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                          And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

                          Believe it or not, there is legal precedent for this:

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens

                          In short. 4 men were in a lifeboat in the later 1800s... after many days, one of the men was in a coma. So they killed him and ate him. They claimed "custom of the sea" as a defense (a real thing btw, an alternative to maritime law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custom_of_the_sea), but ultimately were sentenced to the statutory death penalty.

                          I guess back to your point, there was a reddit thread about this too, but basically yes if someone died, it would increase the length of available oxygen.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

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                            @Mik said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                            I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

                            Including those who were forced to watch the movie?

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

                              The Brad

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                                OceanGate said in a statement that “we now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.”

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                  Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

                                  Oh totally. They say it happens 5x faster than the human brain can even process. Would be faster than a light switch.

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                                    kluurs
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                                    #92

                                    worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                                    https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

                                      The tweet has been deleted.

                                      The internet is forever:

                                      image.jpeg

                                      So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

                                      image.jpeg

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #93

                                      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

                                      The tweet has been deleted.

                                      The internet is forever:

                                      image.jpeg

                                      So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

                                      image.jpeg

                                      Did you see the whole attempt to blame it on Elon Musk and Starlink?

                                      The Brad

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                                        If the sub was disabled the pilot would surely know that recovery could take weeks.

                                        He would have no choice

                                        He would have to kill the others to save himself

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                                        • kluursK kluurs

                                          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                                          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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                                          @kluurs said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                                          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

                                          I just watched that this morning. This is sad but I wonder if they have video footage from the main ship documenting the trip and accidentally documenting the initial confusion and reaction when it went missing.

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